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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

So...what really happened? Israel says it did a "crippling" attack on all of Iran's air defenses and ability to make drones and missiles. Iran says it intercepted most of the attack, limiting the extent of the damage, though with some fatalities (as definitively noted in the article). I've heard conflicting accounts of whether Israel fired from outside Iranian airspace or whether they were doing laps around Tehran. I've seen multiple videos of Iran's air defense in action, but these can be cherry-picked.

Obviously there is going to be an enormous amount of censorship, propaganda, and straight up misinformation. Good luck getting actual good info.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago

Can't disagree, every nation has the right to defend itself.

[–] [email protected] 144 points 4 days ago (187 children)

Iran is correct.

Israel is destabilizing the region further with this shit.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Can we just let the leaders duke it out? 1 on 1 knife fights. Leave the people out of this shit

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If only.

[T]he ministers and generals of the two countries, dressed in bathing-drawers and armed with clubs, can have it out among themselves. Whoever survives, his country wins. That would be much simpler and more just than this arrangement, where the wrong people do the fighting.

  • All Quiet on the Western Front, written by a WW1 veteran
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Do you just have quotes like this in a rolodex?

I loved the book, but cannot pull quotes for the life of me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Nah, just good at vaguely remembering quotes and then googling things like "All Quiet On The Western Front generals quarrel quote"

[–] [email protected] 63 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We hear about Israel’s right to protect itself so often we almost forget that everyone has it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Everyone, except Palestine and Lebanon

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I mean right doesn't equate to ability...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Eye for an eye for an eye for an eye for an eye...

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago

No lies detected.

Godspeed.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (13 children)

To repeat immortal words of the sage ~~Pierce~~ Piers Morgan, "what should the Iranian government do?".

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I wonder how long these two will keep attacking each other in the name of their right to defend themselves. They should attack at the same time so both can say it was retaliation for the another's simultaneous attack, it's a perfect plan, both can say they got the last word and stop. Waiting for my Nobel peace prize.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (10 children)

It's unlikely they'll attack before the election, if they do. They know every escalation is another vote for Trump, and even Iran doesnt want Trump in power. My guess is they're going to see who wins and what comes out of it before making any decisions.

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