The Pixelfed guy does good work, but video hosting/streaming is the most difficult use-case to compete in due to infrastructure costs; I'm interested to see how he's planning to handle this and I wish him luck.
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In TikTok or instagram reels, you don't follow people you like. You just watch stuff happening.
In TikTok or instagram reels, you don’t follow people you like. You just watch stuff happening.
That's actually the whole point of TikTok, what made it different. An app for short videos where you follow people you like is more of a Snapchat competitor, not TikTok.
I think that pixelfed guy has a big problem with commitment, he has so many unfinished/unpolished projects, and he'd be able to do so much more if he wasn't starting something new every other month.
Yeah okay, so it sounds like he's the kind of guy who'll build a framework, or most of it, and won't ever really become capable of hosting a lot of videos at a watchable quality.
Technically he'll probably have built something basically functional the community could rally behind and get going. But that won't happen, because the people who care about the Fediverse are few, insufficiently resourceful, and most importantly don't care about shorts.
Not at all, Pixelfed is very polished and gets regular updates.
he mentioned in the past that the videos will be automatically deleted after some period of time, so that should make the storage situation a little bit more manageable.
How ephemeral.
I can't wait for it to be used for important long term information.
Important long term storage in short video clips?
It seems to be what's popular these days
I think federated non-profit video platforms won't work on large scale without P2P.
I think streaming works best where people self host their own media tbf.
Self hosting isn't really compatible with viral content, you do something that blows up and either get the hug of death or go bankrupt from the bandwidth costs.
Maybe the problem in that equation is the expectation of virality and not self hosting?
It doesn't matter if virality is the goal, unless you're suggesting it be actively prevented, virality is just a natural phenomenon of the internet. The term viral generally implies uncontrolled exponential spread. To this day, stuff goes viral without people intending it to.
And if you architect the system to scale a p2p network proportional to virality (ex. as people share it, they also self-host) you run into a ton of security and abuse challenges. We're also stretching the definition of "self-hosting" at this point.
I actually kind of love the idea of a per diem Unknown User Limit. Like the first 5000 unregistered users can view the site, but after that they get dropped at ingress. Also, limit user signups per day (this ain't about growing user base, it's about preventing virality)!
Sure, you could still need an ingress server that can handle a high load to avoid the accidental ddos of word-of-mouth gets out about it, but that's a million times lower of a requirement than a server that can handle serving a web page or app to the same number of users.
Yeah, I actually kinda like the idea of a whole internet where avoiding virality is somehow built into the system. But I think such a system would naturally evolve into a p2p solution. You couldn't stop people from taking and rehosting content on their own servers.
Self hosting isn't really compatible with viral content
The post I was replying to claimed virality and self hosting are at odds with one another because it causes skyrocketing expense. My point was that maybe someone selfhosting a server in the fediverse is not as interested in virality. And I doubt even the most viral posts in the fediverse would break the bank of a selfhoster
And my point was directly in response to your point.
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Reminds me of the time somebody namedropped a hobbyist's project on prime time national radio in the UK. Their project was a train timetable tracker website, made because the official resource didn't work too well. The site went down nearly instantly 🤣
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Hmm, they managed to get on techcrunch. Impressive. So many little fediverse projects just don't.
Loops is not yet open sourced, nor has it completed its integration with ActivityPub, the protocol that powers Mastodon, Pixelfed, PeerTube, and other federated apps.
Ah, it's a startup with a hypeman budget that might federate, that's why.
Edit: Although it's by the Pixelfed guy and run by donation?
I signed up and never got the verification email. It happened to basically everyone else that signed up too. Weird. Looks like the “official launch” was actually the “beginning of beta test”, weird how they marketed it as an “official launch”.
the creator delayed the launch because he had to write the legalese for the service, and on top of that I think he's waiting for the app stores to approve the app (the service isn't available through a browser).
Theres no web app? That seems short sighted. You apparently cant access anything without logging either. I dont expect these shorts to get much viewership if you have to register and download an app to see anything. It also doesnt seem in the spirit of the fediverse
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I thought that what he literally called it. Public Beta
Isn't "soft launch" the usual term for this?
Can’t wait for federated LinkedIn and indeed next.
Oh no, not sure I want that.
The reason I'm not sure, is because I woke up at 5 am to do my morning run while making cold calls and preparing to open another business because my baby was born 2 hours before and taught me about B2B marketing in AI powered age.
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no actual product available, lets spam it everywhere. awesome.
hard not to feel like someone isnt countin eggs as chickens here
Hello?
You heard them, you're in charge of video hosting now.
I'm fine with it, if its not invasive in privacy and does not collect all the information. And if its a bit better moderated.
I hope that floating navbar style doesn't become mainstream. Distracting to the point of making me sick.
I don't have TikTok myself but having seen my friends show videos from their screen I think it's absolutely hideous how half of the video is covered with comments and buttons and shit. That would be a total dealbreaker for me.
This is lovely, even though I’m absolutely not interested.
Suspicious use of “competitor” is suspicious.
What's next? Fediverse Amazon?
Just stop 😂
A decentralized marketplace would honestly be pretty sick as long as they can figure out how to ensure people don't't get scammed
"Sick" as in "slick?" "Good?" (Going to add "clueless oldster" to the description on my BH profile page).
Along the lines of a "Fediverse Amazon", @[email protected] told me about flohmarkt, which does look interesting. One of its instances can be viewed here.
One note on "sick" being slang for "good": that particular slang started in the 80s, and some of the younger generation consider it to be old person slang.
So I'm even older than I thought?! 😱
Sick mean cool or awesome. I guess
IMO we need to break it in a few independent but cooperating decentralized systems;
- A transportation service where consumers will request the transportation of goods or people from point A to point B, and providers will make bids for those requests.
- A storage service where providers will offer storage of goods at specific locations, and consumers that make requests for the storage.
- A LC service, where two parties can enter an letter-of-credit (LC) contract, and providers can guarantee the contract.
If these systems are available, it would be possible to implement additional decentralized services like;
- Marketplaces.
- Passenger transportation services.
- Food delivery.
- Probably many more.
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Why? Is it bad providing alternatives? Especially as it is Fediverse based, which is federated and not controlled by a single company. And being compatible to Fediverse protocol means you can use any application.
Imagine something like Amazon, a central place you go and everyone who federates with it can sell products. I'm not against it.
Fediverse is underpopulated cringe, this place is dead compared to everywhere else I go
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