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[–] [email protected] 204 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Couldn't think of a more lemmy thread topic than one involving both Russian geopolitics and linux.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago

This one is scratching a ton of itch.

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[–] [email protected] 143 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Hello Internet commenters. Please remember that there's no rule that says you need to tell us all your gut reaction to this if you know absolutely nothing about the situation.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago (20 children)

knowing nothing about the situation is indeed the problem. if only this process was more transparent...

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

Dude, WHAT. This is totally against what Linux and Open source in general stand for.

I don't support the thing that I'm sure was their reason for this but I definitely don't support banning someone from contributing to an open system solely off nationality.

So what eventually only the "good guys" can contribute to and use open source software? Who exactly decides who the "good guys" are in this scenario? USA? China?

The implications of what this can cause in the future for potentially all of the open source community is absolutely sad. We should welcome all our fellow human beings to contributing to open source.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Reminds me of a comment the other day on a post about Ventoy. Whatever the situation there is, which definitely needs clarification still, the person was saying that you shouldn't trust it at all because the maintainer is Chinese, even though he has emigrated away. Because the CCP will be able to leverage his family still there to force him to create a backdoor.

That's just thinly veiled racism in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's plain racism honestly.

I knew a (asian) guy who was working for a government contractor serving the US military. The racism is very serious to say the least. He got framed when something went down and was almost tried with treason. (that carries the death penalty) The authorities hit him with questions about his loyalty to the US for 5 hours even though he grew up in the US and so did his parents.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Kernel development is for fed only.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (15 children)

"Compliance requirements"? The kernel's american now?! WTF?

The commonality of all these maintainers being dropped? They appear to all be Russian or associated with Russia. Most of them with .ru email addresses.

Not short-sighted in the least...

Similarly, the driver code remains within the kernel -- including for Russian hardware such as around the Baikal CPUs from Russia's Baikal Electronics.

Not a hypocrite move at all...

Are israeli developers blocked as well? How about all american developers considering how the US foreign policy keeps fucking everyone up all over the place in the name of liberty and freedom... of oil?

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago

I am quite disappointed at the lack of transparency regarding this.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (19 children)

it's a pity that politics is penetrating more and more into open source and FOSS.

recently support for Russian cloud providers was cut out of opentofu. https://github.com/opentofu/registry/pull/824

now this. this is, of course, natural the core and many components of modern distributions have not been free in terms of decision-making for a long time and are under the influence of large companies, which in turn are under the influence of the USA.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

It's a fact of life that politics permeates everything, nothing is in isolation of the political climate it exists within.

The state of the world today is a function of the politics that got us here, a big change in world politics can have dramatic and far reaching effects.

A healthy global FOSS culture requires collaborative politics to be the flavour of the day—which is unfortunately not the case in a lot of countries currently.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (4 children)

FOSS has always been political. And usually fairly reactionary.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago (144 children)

This is a shame, I always thought Linux was supposed to be an International collaboration, hate to see it caught up in this bullshit political agenda.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I think the Russians that would want to backdoor stuff would just use a name like John.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I'm definitely all for Ukraine winning, but this is bullshit, basically the red scare all over again (but for tech).

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This is dumb. Corporate divestment, sure, of course, fuck their money and their power structures. But open-source developers are not generally gung-ho about the war effort... let alone propping up their local military-industrial complex.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

Now what the actual fuck

Linus gives it a full green light and refers to negative reactions as Russian bot attacks

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linus-Torvalds-Russian-Devs

1000054130

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

Gotta have them "various compliance requirements", man, gotta have'em. Don't ask me what they are, but damnit, gotta have'em.

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