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[–] [email protected] 173 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Remember when Y2K was going to potentially end the world, but it didn't thanks to experts working 'round the clock?

Remember when corporations turned around and got pissy because Y2K was successfully avoided, claiming that it was all a big hoax?

Remember how it's now taught in some places that Y2K was a hoax and you can't trust experts?

No wonder the world struggled with COVID.

[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The reason Y2K wasn't a big deal was through the efforts of software developers and the only recognition they got was the movie Office Space.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Tbf every kid entering the workforce should have to watch office space and handed a red card for the IWW

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Office space is great, to be fair

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago

It cost like half a trillion dollars to avert the issues of Y2K. A lot of people don't realize how much of an issue it was.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I can see the same thing happening with climate change; say we successfully avert it, you'll have all the lunatics on saying, "see?? There was nothing to worry about, we stressed and struggled for nothing!!1!"

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh you know they will. It’s a guarantee… and I hope that winds up being the case because the alternative is a nightmare come true.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Literally already done with the hole in the ozone layer

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's too late to wish for that. We've already emitted too much, and didn't slow enough in time to avert catastrophic climate change. We will likely live through it, but we'll suffer. And those in poorer, hotter countries will die en masse. Wars will likely happen as refugees flee countries now made inhospitable. Fascism will rise as richer countries, more able to weather the storms, become insular and focus on domestic issues to the detriment of the aforementioned refugees. Perhaps revolutions will happen. Extreme heatwaves, hurricanes, tsunamis, will threaten coastal and tropical cities, and island nations in particular, but even cooler countries will be stricken with fatal heatwaves, just less often.

None of this is "if" we miss some target. We already missed it. It is already set in stone. We can only do our best to ensure it doesn't get even worse than that. That's still not the worst possible outcome.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's the one thing we can't avert, only adapt to and mitigate. The time to avert was half a century earlier.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Are you ready to go through it again soon?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem

The year 2038 problem (also known as Y2038, Y2K38, Y2K38 superbug or the Epochalypse) is a time formatting bug in computer systems that represent times after the time 03:14:07 UTC on 19 January 2038.

The problem exists in systems which measure Unix time – the number of seconds elapsed since the Unix epoch (00:00:00 UTC on 1 January 1970) – and store it in a signed 32-bit integer. The data type is only capable of representing integers between −(231) and 231 − 1, meaning the latest time that can be properly encoded is 231 − 1 seconds after epoch (03:14:07 UTC on 19 January 2038). Attempting to increment to the following second (03:14:08) will cause the integer to overflow, setting its value to −(231) which systems will interpret as 231 seconds before epoch (20:45:52 UTC on 13 December 1901). The problem is similar in nature to the year 2000 problem.

A lot of old PC hardware simply couldn't scale to modern needs. On the plus side, things like virtualization and 64-bit architecture are helping solve issues like this.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

We actually recently lived through some of the work arounds for Y2K causing issues again. Look up the Y2020 issue. A lot of the fixes for Y2K only pushed the problem out 20 years.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Same thing with the hole in the Ozone layer. People think it was never a problem because we don't hear about it anymore, not realizing the issue has been mitigated and is recovering as we took concerted efforts to understand the cause and fix it before it became a disastrous situation.

Fun fact, pandemics can be addressed in a similar manner. With plenty of resources and scientific collaboration, potential pandemics can be identified, risks and remedies can be researched, and then policies can be put into place to prevent them from rising to the level of a pandemic in the first place. The problem is that people generally don't see that a pandemic was prevented, only when they fail to be prevented. Also preventing them takes money, and requires policies that can temporarily negatively affect economies. Those things are mortal sins to conservatives and libertarians. So they dismantle programs that already exist or cut their funding to make them as useless as they believe them to be. Then the worst happens and they get to point at the program that failed and use that to justify never spending money on it again. Yaaaaaaaaay!

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Ukrainian 90s babies living through the collapse of the USSR, decade of banditry and poverty, 2 revolutions, a plague, and the largest war since WW2 before they hit 30:

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You forgot -

  • Housing crisis which makes house impossible to afford.
  • Rent crisis which makes event renting harder and gives owners freehand to increase rent however they like
  • Global job scarcity
  • Stagnation of income in sight of exploding inflation
[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

True, but it has to be readable.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago
  • Forest fires that turn the sky red
  • Record rainfall and flooding
  • Once in a millennium heatwaves

It depends on where you live of course

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (18 children)

🤝 90's babies living through WW1, the Great Depression, and WW2 before they hit 50

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Now we just gotta hope the roaring 20s comes back... that's also gonna repeat, right? Gonna have fun? Cause it's the 20s? Someone tell me it's gonna happen.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The low-interest economic regime of the 2010s was that

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

"Hey mom, can we go get some roaring 20s now?"

"We already have some roaring 20s at home, honey."

Roaring 20s at home:

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (7 children)

More like 80s babies, since we were actually old enough to remember those first two things

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I was born in 1992 and remember it all.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Im still waiting on the world to end since 2012.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

Personal headcanon is that it did and we're in hell

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Did they say it would be quick? Maybe that's where we peaked.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Don't go taking all the glory of living in a doomed world. Us 80's babies are right there with you.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Only thing us 80s babies lucked into is that a few of us were able to buy a house before prices skyrocketed. I don't know how anyone just starting off could even get a foot in the door in this market.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Don't forget about the mass extinctions

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I mean, ever since the second world war. We have always been at risk of a third.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

plus i was born 96 - which feels very peculiar, i didn't really have any 90s kid experiences or remember the 90s particularly like millennials, but i'm far too old for hyper-tiktoked gen Z identity, where the internet is fact of life and not a beloved innovation

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Has there actually been a better century in terms of comfort and stability for most people

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

"May you live in interesting times."

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Do 90s babies really remember Y2K and 9/11?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Trauma, unlike wealth, actually does trickle down. So even though kids don't understsnd where it's coming from, major traumatic events will affect them second-hand.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't forget you have Y2K38 coming up. Whereas Y2K was all about mainframes and old databases, Y2K38 will be older embedded equipment. Less impact if it goes bad, but there's no way to predict everything it'll affect.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (8 children)

If you are under 30 you didn’t really experience Y2K, or the 2008 recession.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think under 30s may have experienced the recession. Maybe not first hand in terms of job loss but I imagine the quality of life impacts on children will have been felt.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

Tons of those folks who lost jobs had children. I didn't know what a recession was but I do remember my mom crying a lot and then us moving from a nice house in the suburbs to an apartment in the bad side of town.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

I may have been a child in 2007-2008 but I did felt the recession when our house had to be sold, and we could barely feed our family just because the Lehman Brothers fucked up.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm banking on it so I don't have a retirement fund.

If you fuckers fix everything you better have socialized retirement in the package.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess technically I "lived through" Y2K, in the same sense that I've lived through every other day of my life.

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