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Terraria devs condemn Unity, pledge $100k each to rival open-source engines and $1k a month going forward. (www.gamedeveloper.com)

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[–] [email protected] 99 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Could you not change the title? Yours is factually wrong.

The original is:

Terraria developer Re-Logic condemns Unity, donates $100k to both Godot and FNA

They are donating $100k each, as in $200k at once. And then another $1k per month each.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just took it directly from the article, but sure I'll update it.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's where you made the mistake. You trusted a journalist to title their article accurately :)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Copy editing nowadays is just not what it used to be. :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

inconceivable

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

OK, that makes a lot more sense. I read the title and was just confused, since there are so many different engines.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I was hoping to see the bevy game engine get that money.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Re-logic again for the win.

I should play another 1000 hours of Terraria.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Calamity Mod turned my 2000 hour Terraria profile into a 4000 hour one.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I mean, that's my plan.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been playing Terraria since June of 2011. It. Is. Awesome. Possibly my favorite game of all time. I knew the devs were awesome too, and I'm not surprised to see this.

If you don't own it, I promise Terraria is worth both your time and the 10$USD. Plus, you'll be supporting a kick ass team!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Terraria is great! Also kudos to Re-Logic for supporting the industry!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Nice, how will Godot spend it?

[+] [email protected] -9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

"The loss of a formerly-leading and user-friendly game engine to the darker forces that negatively impact so much of the gaming industry has left us dismayed to put it mildly," wrote the Re-Logic team. "We unequivocally condemn and reject the recent TOS/fee changes proposed by Unity and the underhanded way they were rolled out."

I hope they are not serious about this moralizing , unity is making 1.8B but losing almost a billion a year, either they cut back on expenses or they somehow increase income, i think they might not want to cut back on expenses because they are feeling the heat of open source game engines like gadot or even gdevelop (and that will lead to a inferior product ). I think the same thing is happening with RISC-V and ARM.

Hopefully there is enough of real financial support for godot and other open source gaming software and not just feel good talk. godot fund almost doubled in funding but that is not close to 1B dollar (but maybe companies are allocating full time developers).

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Maybe if unity is concerned about operating in the red they should stop doing billions of dollars in acquisitions.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

moralizing

That's what you are doing in their defense by preaching the virtues of the poor smol bean acquisition-hungry rent seeking billion dollar corporation that can't help doing widdle fucky wuckies like trying to make all of the money instead of just making money.

bootlicker

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The dynamics of open source development are very different from commercial ventures. For example, Mastodon is basically developed by a single person with a few contributors. Yet, from user perspective it's superior to Twitter in many ways which is a company that used to have around 3k employees. The fact that Unity is a big company that has a lot of money doesn't directly translate into doing much higher quality development over Godot. It's a more polished product right now, but even a few hundred thousand can make a huge difference for Godot because that would mean full time development for at least a year.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bucky was right once again with his theory of "Ephemeralization" https://dbpedia.org/page/Ephemeralization ... The only reason we're concerned with these companies employing Devs and spending Billions to do what small teams of FOSS are able to achieve is simply a bad economic system that requires "make work" or Bullshit jobs for wages to feed the parasite class, instead of us living like the Jetson's. Time to move one!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

The Jetsons still lived in a world with class exploitation, George works on a bulshit job btw.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But he has a robot maid and nobody has to cook.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Bad example on my part;)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

7500 employees

But yes, to your point, I have a somewhat controversial theory that given enough time, relatively niche proprietary software like Unity will not be able to compete with open-source software (if the latter is well-managed). Look at the growth that Blender has had over the last few years and what effect that has had in the 3D creation market. It seems that the game engine market is going to follow similar footsteps if Godot doesn't fall into some major pitfall.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I completely agree, once an open source project reaches a certain point of polish there's very little incentive for people to favor proprietary options over it. Blender is one of the best examples of this. Krita is another project that's increasingly displacing commercial options. I definitely think Godot has this potential as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

get fucked, shit-lib

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I hope they are not serious about this moralizing , unity is making 1.8B but losing almost a billion a year, either they cut back on expenses or they somehow increase income, i think they might not want to cut back on expenses because they are feeling the heat of open source game engines like gadot or even gdevelop (and that will lead to a inferior product ).

Let's be real here, they've hit market saturation but profits have to keep going up, forever into infinity, no matter how shitty it makes their product or service.