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[–] [email protected] 105 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I have been rewatching some franchise media that got bad receptions (new star trek movies, matrix reloaded, The Phantom Menace) and I have been feeling a lot more charitable to these works than I was the first time.

In this spirit I watched The Hobbit again and it is truly awful.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I seem to recall there being a pretty good fan edit that condensed it down into one long movie and cut out all the unnecessary love triangle stuff.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

I enjoyed watching that when it was first created! Any word of a 1080p for that one? I'd even take a release of the timestamps so that I could make the edit to my 1080p versions.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There's a few. I watched the M4 book edit recently and it's pretty great.

Certainly cut out a few scenes I liked, but its goal was to be book accurate and it does a great job IMO.

https://m4-studios.github.io/hobbitbookedit/

The list of changes is remarkable.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can wouch for this one. Very well done. I wish they cut out more Alfrid time though.

Alfrid makes me understand why people hate Jar Jar so much.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I like Darth Jar Jar. I want video genAI to execute what it was really built for and replace Dooku with DarthJar.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Like is a strong word I think. I don't mind him. But I was a kid when Phantom Menace came out, I didn't really fully experience the original trilogy before I saw it. So that's why - for a kid it's a fun goofy comic relief. So might have liked him back then, which moved my tolerance for him in adulthood. Didn't see the movie in years though.

LotR is sacred to me on a similar level like the SW original trilogy was sacred to the die hard SW fans back then, probably. I can't say I hated the Hobbit movies (though they are clearly inferior - the edit really saved them), but I hate Alfrid with everlasting passion.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is this the same edit made by Tolkien Editor or is it another cut?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's a different cut. Tolkien Editor wrote he edited over a weekend, the maple edit took 2 years.

Another edit is https://m4-studios.github.io/hobbitbookedit

Which is closer to the book, whereas maple is a bit more action/cinematic and hints at LOTR plot.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Reloaded was well liked. Revolutions was widely panned. I also rewatched them both recently (all four plus the Animatrix in order, actually) and I found that I liked them more on rewatch, a couple decades later, than I did initially.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I recommend giving the X Man Series another try. I recently did and it gave me a warm fuzzy feeling. The original timeline just feel like perfect cheap action movies from the 2000s. Brought me back to my childhood. Same with the "Unbreakable Trilogy"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

On the other hand, rewatching any season of True Detective is doable.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 month ago (2 children)

When she's crying over her dead dwarf:

"why does it hurt so much?"

"Because it was REAL!"

Has to be one of the worst, cheesiest and badly acted interactions in movie history, it's up there with all the romance scenes in the star wars prequels. I cackled when I first heard it

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago

It's very versatile though. Every time my wife asks "why does it xyz?", in my most dramatic voice "because it was real"

She hates it lol

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Is this the hobbit? I stopped watching after the first one betrayed young me so badly.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Their worst sin in my opinion is actually how they split off the end of the Smaug storyline to be resolved in, like, the first five minutes of the third movie (literally before the title) rather than resolving it in the second movie. Huge pacing mistake.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

WHAT? Like, I know that the battle and stuff does happen after Smaug, so he’s not the final event of the book like you’d think, but I can’t imagine jumping into the third movie for a weirdly quick pay-off and then watching them drag out the battle for basically an entire movie.

God the more I know about these movies the happier I am in my choice to just cherish the book on its own.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

There are plenty of huge errors in these movies, but the pacing of Smaug's demise was one of the better deviations.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I recommend watching the third one, not because it is a good movie, but because it is a hilarious movie.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

That's the right way to do it.

Some people have to keep watching so they can get mad, and make people who like it feel bad.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But how would you cram in some unnecessary romance without dreamy eyed elves?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

D'ye no find these eyes a wee bit dreamy?"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Those eyes are crazy

But that damn beard is so fluffy, I'm gonna to die.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He's a dream, but I'm biased as I match him in height, figure and beard.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But are you dangerous over short distances?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I can only assume, yes. I'm not getting into many arguments with orcs these days.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Well... you know what they say: if Frodo can go to Osgiliath...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

The people they fight for are mostly not in the book either so I don't see a problem