china is the best at making the usa look way cooler than it is
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We always wish we're as good as our opponent's propaganda
I mean, that's a kinda-lovable looking Darth Vader.
Here's a Danish Nazi poster that has America as a four-armed giant. Two of the arms are black, and one is carrying a noose. There's a Klu Klux Klan hood on his head. One hand is wielding a record via which America spreads culture. Another a bag of money with a Jewish guy hanging on the back. The upper torso is a cage with two black people dancing the jitterbug in it. One arm, in a prison sleeve and with a dangling manacle, is carrying a Thompson submachine gun single-handed. One arm is playing a drum, which makes up the lower torso. There's a beauty pagent leg, and the other is a big industrial tube dropping a bomb, presumably representing American industrial munitions output. Despite pre-dating NCD by about seventy years, it's got aircraft wings and two scantily-clad women, one blowing a trumpet and the other waving an American flag, resting on the shoulders. And a Jewish crotch-flap.
Italy had a propaganda poster with a kilometer-high skeletal Statue of Liberty.
Ah yes, the power to... defend against attacks from other nations. Such evil.
For anyone who isn't aware, there are no provisions in the NATO charter for cooperative offensive actions. None. NATO is not a military alliance, it is a defensive pact only.
Yeah but arent you gonna attack me when I defensively invade some sovereign country?!!
Checkmate
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Well we don't live in a video game so we can use NATO to attack, like with Libya. It's our alliance, we'll do what we want!
He is Justice, not as Justice as others but still respectable.
In difference to china wich is best described as this:
Little did they realize that America thought this was awesome. Cringey but awesome.
Not sure why the North Atlantic matters to China.
Liberty Prime Knows Why.
In 2022 NATO under US guidance, or is that pressure, who knows, revised it's strategic plan to include expansion into the Indian and Pacific ocean as a prime objective by increasing military collaboration with the usual suspect of AU and NZ but also Japan, South Korea, and most likely in the future additional prospect such as the Philippines and anyone else willing or coercible.
Everyone there will have to choose a big daddy in the coming decades and that either uncle Sam or uncle Xi. In both case it's the kind of uncle that comes to your bedroom at night but that's another topic.
Later this month, Australia, Japan, New Zealand and South Korea are participating in a NATO Defence Ministerial for the first time and Mark Rutte (NATO Secretary General) reconfirmed in press conference dated October 1 that the plan was to "add meat to the bone" of their participation. Basically, them joining NATO eventually. (I guess that makes them NAPTO)
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_229150.htm?selectedLocale=en
China used to be cooperative with NATO, even though they never particularly liked it but they even went as far as having shared exercise and shared objectives, notably in the anti-piratery defense in the Gulf of Aden. There are 3 key things that changed their mind:
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The bombing of their embassy in Belgrade by the US under NATO command in 1999. Which obviously had a tremendous impact on the population.
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The attack on Lybia by a NATO command. Which China saw a change of policy from a purely defensive posture to an aggressive and ingerent posture by NATO.
The fact is that Lybia was never a risk to any NATO country and it should never have been a NATO operation. (especially since it was mostly used to cover the french president campaign financing fraud... Long and not so relevant story).
- The change of geographical area of concern from America/Europe Vs Russia to the world against China.
Nowadays, NATO doesn't hide the belief that "Threats are global" and that they want to act "far and near" to "protect the interests of their members population" (Honestly "interests" is such a vague word). Seems like straying a bit far from "we only bite if you try to invade us". Sounds more like world policing. China obviously doesn't want to answer to another power. (No one does but they are strong enough to say it).
And when you see an alliance being formed against you, you have two choices, lie down or fight back. China will fight back obviously.
And this is why they care about "North Atlantic". They don't.
Ah yes, Darth Vader, known for how unpopular and unlikable he is.
... I don't think you're supposed to like Darth Vader in the way you're implying.
Man, I hate being part of the greatest military alliance known to mankind. Suffering from success!
Honestly? Love it.
Bro darth vader is fucking lit, like i know hes supposed to the villain. But like the first time you see him in star wars, he legit is wipeing a rebel ship. Also james earl jones was lit as shit, and a really nice person. So like congrats china? You made america look more metal?? Great propaganda, but not for china LMAO
Bro stop stealing the credit from those poor stormtroopers
How can we be sure that isn't Liberia?
It's got one star. Doubtless one of Liberia:
Chile
...or Texas.
Or possibly Puerto Rico
The empire was always a depiction of the USA.
Now that you mention it I wonder if Lucas made sure to only buy American ship models for making the Star Destroyers and Death Star?