Sad. Reminds me of an Explosions in the Sky album name I have always loved; Those Who Tell the Truth Shall Die, Those Who Tell the Truth Shall Live Forever
RIP, Victoria
this post was submitted on 10 Oct 2024
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Fucking animals!
A tragedy for the family and the colleagues. On the other hand, Putin's cronies were killing their own journalists digging up dirts around the Chechen wars. Nothing to be surprised from those gangsters who took over a gas station.
The people who consistently downvote the mediabiasfactcheck bot should be banned. Unless they come up with one that is better, quit trying to censor it.
If you were to look at the mod logs it’s the same 7 people, repeatedly. That’s brigading.
It’s telling when only posts which are from right wing sites are not downvoted by the brigade.
If they banned everyone that hates that stupid fucking bot then there'd be no one left.
Do you have a better one?
If my mechanic sets my car on fire I don't have to be a mechanic to know that that's a shitty thing to do.
Why would I have to program a better bot just to criticise the (shitty) existing one?
Because it’s a feature now, just like the post you chose to come to. These people who constantly brigade need to start their own instance if they don’t like it.
Or just block it. Take it to another mechanic
Criticize then block or move on
I never use it, but whoever is brigading is trying to censor the comment section. I think we have enough of that already.
So instead of calling out your mechanic you'd just let them burn your car and say nothing?
Also, it's not brigading as there hasn't been (AFAIK) anyone asking other people to downvote.
Right now you're defending the car mechanic because other people complain about him burning down cars??
Edit: So your advice is, run away and never (try to) change anything bad that you see in the world?
As I stated before, Make your criticism then move on and/or block. Don’t try and censor the comment section.
Who's censoring anything??
I just block the bot, because MB/FC is garbage.
Is there a better way to get a quick background check of a news organization?
MB/FC is worse than random, so rolling dice would be better. MB/FC & Poynter reliably favor imperial core corporate, NGO, and state-affiliated media.
I don’t know a shortcut to media literacy. Inventing Reality or Manufacturing Consent are good starting places.
So are expecting a trustworthy news outlet to pop up in some third world country ?
I expect trustworthy news to be hard to come by, because the capitalist class—which runs these countries[1][2], owns the media, and funds the NGOs—doesn’t want us to have it. They want us to have media biased in the service of themselves, the capitalist class of imperial core states where we happen to live. Huxley was right.[1]
Once upon a time, when union membership was much larger in the US, the labor movement had media of its own. Unions published their own papers. That’s something we need to get back.
Lemmy would be empty by your standards. Documentation of an event shouldn’t be hard to come by. It’s your perspective of the event that matters
If it looks like shit and smells like shit, it’s probably shit.
I actually agree. I've never heard a reasonable explanation for the downvotes.
Because the information of the bot isn't trustworthy. It highly prefers colonial and right wing media.
Dunno which one it was exactly but IIRC the guardian got a "likely factual" or something rating because a few years back they did a mistake and corrected it a few weeks later. While other right wing media get the same rating despite posting straight up invented articles and facts without corrections.