What's "ethical"?
this post was submitted on 26 Sep 2024
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I bet op is one of those hippies that doesn't like their SMTP tested on animals
Thank you good sir, now I have coffee on my robe!
Yeah, sorry it's not a precise term. I mean a non asshole company.
Mostly that they respect the privacy of my users and that they don't have shady business practices that want to push you towards an over-expensive paid tier.
I'm using Postmark for my Vaultwarden. Nothing major I know of.
I don't know what you mean by "ethical", but I use Sendgrid. They have a free tier that can send up to 100 emails a day.
I've read good things about migadu. Haven't used it myself.
Pretty nice but way more expensive then simplymail
EU servers might be worth something to some people, depending on where they are in the world. And while 190% is indeed "way more expensive", relatively speaking, it's still "well under" your goal of EUR 2 per month.
That's actually a good point. Will need to think about server location and GDPR compliance.
SMTP2GO - 1000 free emails a month, 200 emails a per day.
You could use some containerized mail server like Mailcow. They're pretty alright to set up and should work fine for low volume. At least in my experience. Unless you don't want to deal with mail yourself, then you should maybe consider a paid service. But I don't have any experience with those.
I specifically want to not deal with deliverability beyond the content and volume of my mails.
I use purelymail, you can register unlimited number of domains and get SMTP + IMAP in return (+ Roundcube webmail). Perfect for my usage with few automated services
Amazing! Now this is something I haven't heard of. I think we might have a winner here! Best thing, I could use it for transactional mail on all my websites for 10€/yr. Including as many inboxes as needed. Nice!
I use Brevo and have not had any issues. Your usage qualifies for their free plan.
I use Brevo as well. Free tier: 300 emails per day.
Very happy with them.
Been using Purelymail, full email, but SMTP as well, and love the service thus far.
I’ll second PurelyMail. Easy to set up and they have explainers for all the various settings. I pay $10 a year for “unlimited” domains and mailboxes (some caveats but for minimal mail we won’t hit any limits).
Exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks a lot!
i suspect this falls under the golden rule of 3... price,quality,[ethics].
you get to pick 2
Agreed, and well-articulated. I think you (OP) need to ask yourself whether you’re willing to pay the appropriate market rate for the service or not. I don’t know what that is, but I expect it’s higher than you’ve expressed.
Have a look at purelymail mentioned by others. It's almost exactly what I'm looking for.
Also, we're in beta
That means there might be a few hiccups along the way. If you run across any problems you can always let us know, and we'll do our best to fix them.
I would have thought this is a disqualifier in terms of quality of the service, but if that's acceptable to you then I'm glad you got something that works.
Check out MXRoute. (Specifically the lifetime promo, though I've seen it on sale for cheaper.)
Thanks but that's not what I'm looking for. I need to send mails only.