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I don't really have a question but I want to talk about noodles, please. Is a tamale a noodle or a sandwich?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Technically, a tamale is a calzone according to the cube rule.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

woah, this is why i have reached out to The Internet.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand the cube rule, I just don't think I can really subscribe to it. Calling a bowl of lucky charms nachos is inaccurate, it's clearly a soup.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Exactly, cube rule is inconsistent and needlessly complicated. Both are salads

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Didn’t know I could be more upset about this argument but this rule really takes the ~~cake~~ sandwich. Though for this specific instance, I agree it’s a calzone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Tamales are open on one side when they're steamed. That makes them quiche by this rule.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I love how "toast" includes sushi as an example but sushi doesn't

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does this mean I can get thin crust tamales in New York, and grease death tamales in Chicago

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

In L.A., there's everything from grease death and masa bombs to thin crust and dry. Husk wrapped or banana leaf wrapped. Savory or sweet. We got it all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Oh this is fantastic! Thanks for this.

Also, first kbin/post-Reddit post. Woo.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

What the...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Isn’t the whole point of “toast” that it’s bread that is toasted? How can sushi, an undeniable raw food be “toast”? I’ll accept the cube rule, but toast needs a new classification.,

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The rice isn’t raw, just cold.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ll give you that, but still, it’s certainly not toasted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's not necessarily about the actual toasting. It's about how ingredients are layered. So, toast and butter is the same as rice and fish. That's how a Big Mac can be a cake.

The whole cube rule is just ragebait. And it works well lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

yeah, how? I'd say that actually a sushi roll is a tamale

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Neither! A tamale is corn masa with typically a meat filling. You could consider it a dumpling or a pie. Noodles do not have a stuffing and sandwiches tend to have a distinct layers. I would consider a taco or maybe a gordita a sandwich, but not a tamale. Although this does make me wonder, what would a burrito be classified as? (not counting wrap because that is too easy)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

A burrito is um... a form of a tamale. Actually, it's sushi

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This type of food taxonomy is always fascinating and disturbing, as it tends to spawn even more unhinged classifications (ravioli is a dumpling. A bowl of cereal is a salad).

That being said, the most politically neutral take would be that tamales are a pie.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Are you saying ravioli is not a dumpling?

I am joining you in the tamales are a pie camp though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

cereal is soup and i will fight anyone on this

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I mean kinda? We need to decide how a noodle and a dumpling differ.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It got hot dogs wrong, they only have two sides so they wouldn’t be considered a taco.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If hot dogs only had two sides then you couldn't set them down on the bun the way you do. And in New England it's not even close--the buns up here leave no doubt.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A tamale is most definitely corn bread

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

stuffed corn bread? but let's also make the masa distinction

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

A tamale is a pop tart, obviously

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd say a tamale is a dumpling.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

nixtamalized corn dumpling: this is proper and you are righteous

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a Mexican, I am very disturbed by this question. It's not stupid (that doesn't exist in this community), it's just disturbing xD

No, a tamale is not a noodle. Noodles don't have fillings, are longer, and thinner. It's like asking if ravioli is a noodle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As someone from the U.S. who grew up eating Mexican food in Texas, I agree. It is disturbing. The filling is very important to a tamal. They aren't bendy or thin either. Noodles are thin and bendy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

i am new mexico af and i respect your carne guisada, but really. NM food kills it. Please come over to Santa Fe and check out green chile Carne Adovada. "Texas" lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Not, say, if you want to make cacio e pepe. (I'm a new reddit refugee, so I haven't figured out how to respond to a comment.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Sometimes a tamale is just a tamale" - Sigmund Freud Probably

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And sometimes you just really want to fuck good tamale… I mean mother.. I mean calzone!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

closer to a pie, as pies as have filling.

noodles don't have filling

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

what is ravioli? And, is ravioli a dumpling?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

David Chang argues that ravioli are dumplings on Ugly Delicious.

I’m inclined to agree in that dumplings and ravioli are the same general idea implemented by different culinary traditions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would say ravioli is not a noodle, and could be called a dumpling, yes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Technically, ravioli is a stuffed pasta the same as tortellini. That would make it a noodle but I don't believe the same can be said for tamales. Pasta (Italian noodles) is made from a dough of semolina flour, olive oil, and eggs that is rolled into sheets or extruded into shapes. It is then cooked by boiling in water.

I don't think the dough(?) of a tamale is anywhere near the same.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, tamale dough is masa (nixtamalized corn) while ravioli is typically wheat flour, as you describe. Noodles can be made out of corn or rice, too... they're not really that different than wheat noodles. I have Celiac so I have tried a lot of gluten free noodles made from alternative grains.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. The point of noodles is that they hold their form without any help when you cook them. Without their leafy containers, tamales would be more like polenta/corn meal mush--also yummy but not noodly.
https://prnt.sc/4atIxUL1D90X R-amen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Seems like a somewhat arbitrary requirement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I am angry at the very notion that a tamale could be a noodle.

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