edit: after 20 comments, i'm adding a post description here, since most of the commenters so far appear not to be reading the article:
This is about how surprisingly cheap it is (eg $15,000) to buy a complete production line to be able to manufacture batteries with a layer of nearly-undetectable explosives inside of them, which can be triggered by off-the-shelf devices with only their firmware modified.
Sending out IEDs that will probably explode in a supermarket and kill civilians is generally considered a war crime. So far 2 kids killed in Beirut by the Israeli bombs in devices.
Exterminating the next generation of people who would live on the land they want to steal is the goal.
It's also a big ass war crime. And if you did it habitually as anyone other than the West you could expect a visit from the US military. Inside the West you'd likely end up in prison. Except Israel. Israel is just immune to everything because uhhh... Because... Well nobody actually has a good reason.
We don't see exploding batteries more because most militaries are better about securing their supply chain.
The attack hit many civilians. For militaires it might be feasible to secure their chain. For terror attacks, which this was, it would be far more difficult.
Really glad to hear the dead 8 year old girl was Khamas. I’m sure the dozen children that will be shot in the head today will be relieved once they find out they were Khamas as well and deserved to be shot in the head.
Did you hit your head? This comment makes no sense
Even though your edit clarified it, I wish we’d stop calling them “exploding batteries”. The battery isn’t the explosive, it’s the explosives that were hidden in the device. I’ve already encountered far too many morons describing conspiracies where the big bad government could make your iPhone explode.
Title felt misleading.
Context: bunniestudios.com is run by bunnie, the guy who was involved with the hardware side of breaking DRM on the original XBox; he later went into consumer electronics manufacturing.
I don't think terrorists care about the people's trust in everyday things
Jfc Christ Lemmy.
Every single comment misunderstanding the point. The batteries are exploding because there's explosives in them. This does make them exploding batteries. The explode because they are partially made with explosives. Please don't well actually this.
No this is not a description of something Israel did, it's a hypothetical way to do a similar attack to show how within reach of idiot terrorists it is.
Raising the idea of doing this so everyone is thinking about it is extremely bad for us all. Thanks Israel.
Please don't well actually this.
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
Wow, the Great Hannibal Lecter!
I think there may be a couple edits needed in your comment. Reread slowly and get back to us.
No, it doesn't. The battery itself is not the source of the explosion, it's the explosive hidden inside it.
A regular battery cannot be made to explode in this way.
That does not make them exploding batteries, it had explosives in them. A suicide bomber is not an explosive human.
A suicide bomber is not an explosive human but they are an exploding human.
They're batteries. And they are explosive because of the explosives in them. They are discrete things that are explosives.
You're trying to make a weird, un-useful, pedantic distinction here.
Comment you replied to was making a far more useful correction, because people did not read the article.
It's a needed distinction because the Israeli committed more war crimes with what they did.
JFC Christ, does anyone know where the nearest ATM Machine is?
Jfc Christ Lemmy.Every single comment misunderstanding the point.
Pedantics fighting pedantics LOL
The batteries are exploding because there's explosives in them. This does make them exploding batteries.
And when you put the same explosives inside a barbie doll and make it go off, then it wasn't an exploding barbie doll. Or was it? ;-)
Pedantics fighting pedantics LOL
I think you mean "pedants fighting pedants" :p
Fun fact, a group of pedants is called a flem. To use it in a sentence: "the party was ruined by a flem of pedants".
sometimes a cigar is just a cigar
Just to be clear, the pager thing wasn't exploding batteries, they had apparently been modified at the production level to have explosives in them, which could be triggered by the pager system itself.
But I don't want my devices to be bombs
And also because it's impossible.
So it is actually in fact very hard. What they had was exploding explosives which are not hard.
Lithium burns intensely but it doesn't explode. An electric car can burn for a long time, but they don't explode. One of the comments says so
I understand that what happened in Libanon was that dedicated explosives were added to the devices, it was not the batteries exploding. But that does not take away the conclusion of your story.
It shouldn't be undetectable. Throw a device from s series into a fire as a spot check and if it burns it's ok, if it explodes give the entire series to your enemy's kids to play with.
PETN was put into the batteries
Heads up, I don't think C4 explodes when burned. I think it requires electronic detonation or a blasting cap.
It's right next to or in a high intensity lithium fire, not just a normal little flame. That should alter the equation somewhat.
It's possible that it could, but could also not. I'd be curious to find out what would happen but unfortunately the feds won't let me run tests on semtex because I don't have "the proper permits." Jerks.
Maybe we'll see someone with a license to manufacture destructive devices, like OrdinanceLab on YT, do a video on it (fingers crossed!)
I am not an explosives expert, but I've seen enough YouTube videos about explosives to know that not all explosives explode in fire. Some are incredibly stable at extreme conditions right up until deliberately triggered. It all depends on the type of explosives.
There may still be ways to detect them, but it's not necessarily going to be that simple.
Throw a device from s series into a fire as a spot check and if it burns it's ok, if it explodes give the entire series to your enemy's kids to play with.
Most high explosives burn unless detonated properly.
This is really basic stuff. I don’t think you should be out and about giving people advice about handling (potential) explosives.
It depends on the explosive, C-4, and I think all plastic explosives, will burn in a fire.
I'm saving this. Not because I want to make bombs, but if it really is that easy to make lithium batteries then knowing about the process will be beneficial someday. It's hard to find information about how rechargeable batteries work. You probably couldn't even make a lead acid battery from raw materials using just information on the internet.
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
