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The Supreme Court has rejected an emergency appeal from Nevada’s Green Party seeking to include presidential candidate Jill Stein on the ballot in the battleground state.

The court’s order Friday, without any noted dissents, allows ballot preparation and printing to proceed in Nevada without Stein and other Green Party candidates included.

The outcome is a victory for Democrats who had challenged the Greens’ inclusion on the ballot in a state with a history of extremely close statewide races. In 2020, President Joe Biden outpaced former President Donald Trump by fewer than 35,000 votes in the state.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

while normally I'd be upset if they were running somebody with some kind of real intent to push real issues, its clear Stein is mostly isnt interested in pushing anything but conspiracy theories and russian appeasement.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 22 minutes ago

But if we don't vote 3rd party then democrats will never do the exact things I want, or some shit

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[-] [email protected] 21 points 6 hours ago

Oh dear, that’s going to make her path to an electoral college victory harder, isn’t it.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago

She has 49 other states she can fail to win in...

but still siphon enough votes to hand trump the whitehouse

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago

270 to win!

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[-] [email protected] 76 points 9 hours ago

Same time next Presidential election, Jill?

[-] [email protected] 32 points 8 hours ago

I mean she could use the time between to build local support for the Green Party in lots of places. I guess that isn't what she's after.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

Sure usually hangs out in Russia between elections, right?

[-] [email protected] 21 points 7 hours ago

And God forbid they spend any money on local elections where they can affect things like I don't know actual green party issues.

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[-] [email protected] 38 points 10 hours ago

More's the pity, she can't run for president of Russia either.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 10 hours ago

Why can’t these candidates file proper forms? What the hell is so difficult about that?

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 8 hours ago

Again.... I might just go back too being a Dem. I tried 3rd party but, this stuff keeps happing. I like the ideals just no was too do it from a third party way for the time being. Gotta change from with in I guess.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

Greens local, Dems for state and nation. You are just throwing away your vote otherwise.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 57 minutes ago

Not even Greens, they don't put any serious effort into local elections either. Any other (serious) third party would be better locally.

[-] [email protected] 35 points 7 hours ago

Not from within, from underneath. You effect change at the lower levels. Political change comes from the ground up. That's why Jill Stein is so frustrating cuz she takes all the money and attention that could be spent somewhere useful and instead spends it on a boondoggle for her own personal gain.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago

This. The Brits have a first past the post system. Greens now are winning mayorships and parliament seats and making deals with labor not to split the vote in their favor because they have been building local support for decades.

They are a force in their districts, so they get elected to office in their districts. Do that to a few dozen districts and you can meaningfully affect the balance of power in Westminster. Then you start getting into coalitions and supplying ministers.

You can’t just wake up once every four years and hope to be anything but a spoiler candidate.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 7 hours ago

The two party system is incredibly frustrating. There is also a feeling of helplessness because the path to change is unclear. Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans truly want more competition

[-] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

It's not a question of wanting competition or not. Political parties by nature will attempt to get as strong a coalition as they can, until they reach a size large enough that bisecting the party still leaves one half in power and some internal disagreememt triggers the split.

Fringe parties in America, like the Green and Libertarian parties, arent oppressed by some conspiracy between Rs and Ds. Rather, they are left at the fringe because they do not have any power worth pledging to, for the simple fact that in the american single-rep plurality-wins system tbere is no prize for second place.

Voters who like the current office holder work to keep them in power and those who do not work with the opposition to remove the incumbent from power. Anyone not joining one of these sides serves only as a tool for one side against the other, since anything but a vote for the runner up is an effective endorsrment of the eventual winner.

The American system is imperfect and could be a lot better, but fringe parties and vanity campaigns do nothing to actually encourage systemic change.

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