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This is the second advertising post I've seen on lemmy and they were both today. I'm wondering how other people feel about it or if they've even seen posts like this?

Personally I'm livid and hate seeing it here. One of the things that attracts me to lemmy is the donation based, volunteer run, distributed, open access nature of it. I don't want it to become profit driven and I really don't want to see companies in what I belive should be a purely social endeavour. I really think making it profit driven will ruin it, if that means it stays smaller then I'm okay with that.

Now I know I can block them and move on which is what I've done. I'm also pleased to say that both posts I saw were heavily downvoted and I did my part too.

I'm curious if other people agree with me and don't want advertising like this on lemmy? Also, what do people think we can actually do about it if we don't want it around? Petition instance admins to ban advertising accounts? Then how do we define one? Can anything actually be done or do I just have to block and move on from a possibly ever increasing flow of advertising until I get bored and move on?

Sorry for the long rambling post and thanks if you read this far.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Companies will company, if there's an open door to spam things they will. SPAM in the email realm I recall seeing a stat that it accounts for somewhere around 90%+ of email traffic, so thus all the crazy hurdles of ip lists, dkim, spf, etc.

I've seen accounts created on Mastodon for just that purpose. They get a warning that such is not the platform's purpose, if ignored into the ban bucket they go. The problem is it's easy to create accounts unless the admins want to manually review and approve every applicant. External IP blocks work to an extent, but are always going to be reactive in nature getting banned after they've been reported. Ce'st la'vie (or however it's spelled)

If there's a plus side to it, their presence here means that someone thinks the network reach is enough to be worth the effort to post something here to get some kind of return.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is kind of how I thought it might be. Due to the way it all works I don't think we can really do much about it and will just have to adjust I guess.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Advertising in General? F that noise.

This is a moderation problem, it should be fixed with moderation.

Every community should have rules and they should be followed.

Start with no OOC advertisements. You have a 3d printing forum and Bamboo is releasing a new printer? Maybe let them make a single post on announcement asking for what people thing and one more when it releases.

If advertisements start to happen too often, new rule of personal endorsements only with bans as a consequence.

We still need moderation tools like timed bans and shadow bans.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I guess it's a good sign that the Fediverse is growing! :) -_-;

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Some dude is making a living.

It is blessed that he is trying to find customer for his trade, not trying to scam people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It depends. What is the instance's stance on paid promotion? What is the community's stance on self promotion? Is the person pushing the product adding value to the community by doing so?

Personally. I don't think I'd be on an ad funded instance. That's a nope from me. If a community has a flat ban on self promotion, that can be a little crappy sometimes, but I get it. But like... If Ploopy is posting into the trackball community or the 3d printing community or the open source hardware company, I actually think that's great and I want to see more stuff like that. Yes, its advertising, but that's also a company / person who wants to be a helpful contributor to those communities

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eh, I'm not 100% against them. There's a time and a place for ads. If a 3d printer company wants to have an account, post they have a new 3d printer, and it's in a 3d printing company, that's an ad, but I want that one. 3d printing filament manufacturer having a sale on filament? I want that ad bc I wanna get that cheap filament. Random driving service in an unrelated community? Block and move on.

I don't think it'll get too bad because there's no automated ads here. All ads/posts are manual, AFAIK. (I'm sure someone will figure out how to automate it.) If it does get too bad, then there should be something more, sure, but it's not there yet.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like it a lot better than the Reddit ads with locked comments

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think you have a good point. I’m not gonna generally lambaste a business/ad in the comments, but I’d like for the option to be there as a possible feedback mechanism. Bans aren’t the only tool.

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