specifically what "rhetoric" are they trying to blame this on, and specifically how is it worse than GOP's rhetoric?
rhetorical question. i know there's no valid answer that's rooted in reality
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It's just Trump's typical defense - accuse the other side of what you're doing before they can, so when they say it, it's at worst a "both sides" issue to the public.
not just trump.. its the P in GOP... projection
Oh, you got them bad with the reality. Otherwise they'd have plenty of answers!
"Your divisive rhetoric caused action from this domestic terrorist we've been radicalizing! It's sneaky to make them go after us! They're supposed to attack the groups we hate.
"Why can't we cooperate on the real issues (immigrants stealing and eating cats)?"
He had a self published book calling for the assassination over trump's political acts as president and out of fear what a second term would mean. There's no party rhetoric there.
Ryan Routh, the man arrested in connection with an apparent attempt to shoot Donald Trump on Sunday, urged in a self-published book the assassination of Trump over the former president’s decision to withdraw from a diplomatic agreement restricting Tehran’s nuclear program.
The 2023 book, a rambling diary of Routh’s attempts to join Ukraine’s fight against Russia and his political views, describes his growing disillusionment with Trump as well his anger at the 2021 U.S. exit from Afghanistan and other foreign-policy decisions he describes as blunders.
“I must take part of the blame for the removed child that we elected for our next president that ended up being brainless, but I am man enough to say that I misjudged and made a terrible mistake and Iran I apologize,” Routh wrote, criticizing Trump for leaving the deal, known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, in 2018.
“You are free to assassinate Trump as well as me for that error in judgment and the dismantling of the deal,” he said in a passage apparently directed at Iran’s government. “No one here in the US seems to have the balls to put natural selection to work or even unnatural selection.”
- wsj article titled "Suspected Gunman in Apparent Trump Assassination Attempt Said He Was Willing to Fight and Die in Ukraine"
This is what I think needs to be pointed out more often. He is a former Trump supporter who feels betrayed by Trump's actions in office. A former cult member woke up and realized that Trump was a threat to the nation. Of course, being a former cult member, and lacking the strongest of connections with reality, he decided that hiding in the bushes and trying to shoot him was a reasonable solution.
The article however says, "Routh’s past online posts suggest the suspect has not been consistent about his politics in terms of supporting Democrats or Republicans."
All these articles are trying to say he wasn't really a Republican or a Democrat and trying to run cover for the GOP. But that's not true. The fact is that he's a former Trump supporter, a former Republican, who realized that Trump was full of shit but he still had a head full of the GOP's and Trump's violent rhetoric. Being a consistent supporter of one party or the other is irrelevant. This had nothing to do with Democrats and everything to do with the GOP and Trump promoting violence and availability of deadly weapons like the one he used.
Yeah. His actions were unwise and influenced by the violent rhetoric of the far right, but he was right to feel betrayed. I want other trump cultists to come to those realizations, but instead of choosing violence to choose to stand up, speak to those still in, and try to help heal this country and bring it onto the right path.
That's a bingo.
With a headline like that I expect some reactions from Republicans in the article. You can't just say they are ignited but give me no descriptions or, even better, pictures.
At best you were going to get some tweets. Nothing might actually be better. Lol
