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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Looks like the Schengen area is pretty much just disintegrating at this point. I doubt the borderless freedom of movement we've been used to for a long time is coming back anytime soon. Closures are definitely snowballing at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So now the best time to take that Euro trip?

Seriously though, just went to Italy, France and Netherlands and it was incredibly how cheap and easy it was to fly between different countries. Definitely want to go back for Germany

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Yes, it's been pretty easy for a long time. However, there's been a slow but steady move toward more border controls over the past few years. Individual countries pretty much ignore EU reprimands about keeping borders open with a big fat "screw you." They have found a loophole, which allows them to close the borders for 6 months at a time and continue that indefinitely. It's been mostly smaller countries like Austria and Denmark, but we're now seeing Germany join that behavior. All of this will eventually add to air travel prices and definitely to the time it takes to travel by car and train.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I moved around a lot this summer, and haven't been checked once, shrug

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Perhaps not totally borderless, but how about something like AU-NZ? Where EU/EFTA/etc citizens can (after going thru a brief and perfunctory check) still travel freely? And the same for spouses of EU citizens/permanent residents of EU countries with the right paperwork/documentation?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Germany is fast tracking reverting back to 1930s.

Doesn’t even try to stop Neo-Nazis gaining power, starts implementing right wing border policies, supporting genocide in Palestine and arresting victims speaking up.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Yeah. Although there's plenty to learn from history, humans have a tendency to ignore it and go with the populist policy of the day instead. The US has been going down that same road with Trump.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I understand Germany tightening their borders, but this is the wrong reasoning and wrong approach. They'll regret it in ten years time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's kind of sad. If the Schengen agreement ends up collapsing, it would severely undermine the foundation of the entire European project and could potentially lead to the eventual demise of the EU as a whole. The EU knows this and they are desperate to keep borders open. But it's just not going to happen, at least not until the external borders are dealt with.