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Why YSK: many countries have issues with weight, such as mine with 74% of US adults being overweight or obese. The global weight loss industry is over $200 billion yearly, with many influencers, pills, and surgeries promising quick results with little effort. These often come with side effects, or don't work long term.

Studies suggest filling yourself with foods low in caloric density and high in fiber, like fruits and vegetables, can help reach and maintain a healthy weight. It's good to have these foods available in our living spaces to make the choice easy. Your taste buds will likely adapt to love them if you're not there yet.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Holy fuck we hit 74%? Goddamn

Percent of adolescents ages 12–19 years with obesity: 22.2% (2017-March 2020)

Percent of children ages 6–11 years with obesity: 20.7% (2017-March 2020)

Percent of children ages 2–5 years with obesity: 12.7% (2017-March 2020)

This shit is child abuse people. Not ok.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Better: just learn to live with not feeling satiated all the time.

Not that you shouldn't make vegies a significant part of your diet, just that a big part of the lifestyle change is learning to be hungry between meals as a normal and non-distressing thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's a more complicated topic. Not everyone's endocrine system is wired the same way, and you can't always just willpower your way through it.

Insistence that willpower is sufficient for weight regulation is a big cause of people going on diet after diet that just doesn't work. They're fighting against the system that has a disproportionate influence on what you want in the first place, and if you push it too far you find yourself not giving a shit about your diet, and then being filled with a slew of complex feelings coming from your "lack of self control".

It's better to direct that energy towards getting your diet compositionally right than trying to be okay just being hungry.

You can't get your body to stop insisting it needs food, but you can get it to insist less often. You can teach it that it doesn't need "SUGAR", it needs water and maybe an apple or banana. You can give it a little solid protein between meals to keep it from asking for a continuous stream of carbs.
You can learn to identify the difference between eating because you're bored or want a little dopamine, and eating because you're hungry. The first one is your brain and you can willpower through it to eventually unlearn the habit.

You can choose to make good choices at the store instead of failing to make them in the kitchen.

Willpower is critical, but it's important to know what you can or cannot actually solve with it and work within that framework.
You're in control of your body, but that doesn't mean that you need to pick the harder path.

And, for some people, their endocrine system is a lot more forgiving. Those usually aren't the people who have a lot of trouble loosing or keeping off weight because they try to just "eat less" and it works.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for saying this. I think the idea that it is just willpower causes so much unnecessary suffering. As someone suffering from an eating disorder and thyroid disease, I was getting a bit down reading all the "it's just calories in vs calories out" remarks. It is so much more complicated than that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

For many, many folk, it is simply cal in vs out.

If you've some condition that affects metabolism, then yes, that sort of advice is not the best.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

It's calorie in/out in the thermodynamics sense, but humans are far too complicated to meaningfully model as a thermodynamic system.

Just doing calorie in/out dieting really doesn't work for most people. That's why you need to combine it with behavioral changes, strategies to change habits and attitudes towards food, which usually also involves changing what you eat and when so the downsides of eating less are less bothersome.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is a joke, right?

Insistence that willpower is sufficient for weight regulation is a big cause of people going on diet after diet that just doesn't work.

No, that's caused by a specific lack of willpower. Going on diet after diet is exactly why focusing on being ok with being hungry is so important.

Get a clue.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

You had a distinct lack of willpower, you lacked the willpower to be nice to someone.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

You're saying people should just deal with hunger and fight against everything evolution wants, instead of just eating high fiber food and not being hungry...

How is that "better"?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That little clicker in the brain that goes off when you've had enough doesn't really work for me. I have to feel physically full or I still feel hungry. Even worse, my dopamine levels are garbage and eating makes me feel good.

Not saying this doesn't work. Only that I'm far from the only one where it is this simple.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm like you, and no it's not simple. As others said, calories in, calories out. Nothing else matters, you need to find your own way to keep it. And no, exercise does not help much with weight, only if paired with a good diet. You would need to work out for hours continuously just to lose the calories from a random extra dessert.

But, you can do it. Two things I wish I had known:

  • For example, my body was able to keep my weight instead of losing it if I kept calories intake where it should be and had a "cheat day" once a week at most. No cheat days for me, my body is too smart for that.

  • Sometimes you feel you are on track, and then you get stuck at a certain weight. Even if you keep your diet, you might get stuck at a certain weight despite losing it well beforehand. Keep at it. You will break through at one point, closer than you think. But you have to keep at it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It is not as simple as just calories in vs calories out. Your body has a setting point for what weight it thinks it should be. Once you are overweight, your setting point will be higher and your body wants to get back to that higher weight. It will start working actively against you. This might mean your appetite will increase and your metabolism will slow down. I think that is what you are describing here.

Trying to push yourself to lose more weight despite your body working against you can cause rebound weight gain if you are not able to keep the diet (which might become increasingly difficult due to increasing appetite). The most important thing is to keep a healthy diet that does not reduce your quality of life too much and is doable on the long term, I think. If you are struggling everyday, then it might be better to eat a little bit more and stay on a higher weight a bit longer to ensure that you will maintain the weight loss.

Maybe this is already what you meant. But the phrase "calories in vs calories out" and stating that nothing else matters made me want to respond. I think it is a popular oversimplification that causes a lot of unnecessary suffering for people trying to lose weight.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

This is propaganda from companies that want you to keep gorging on their slop instead of natural portions of food.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just drinking more water helps a lot to feel full.

Staying active also, is not just good for increasing your caloric needs, it's also a great way to be busy, and substitute eating out of boredom.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Have you ever... Considered the disadvantages of drinking too much water all the time?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago