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There's something seductive about the idea that all our problems are caused by this one thing, and if we could figure out what it is and fix it, we'd be unstoppable at life. It's the same idea behind "doctors hate this one weird trick".
On occasion, it even turns out to be correct.
Or all those testosterone clinic commercials I keep hearing on the radio.
Meirl
Everyday I would wake up with severely sore arms, like they were clenched somehow.
Blood test said Vitamin D deficiency, but the supplements didn't do anything noticeable. But I was on the border of anemia so they told me to try iron supplements too.
Gone overnight. I'm so used to problems being an exhausting road to recovery that this one took me by surprise.
Huh. My recurring biceps pains are the bane of my existence. And I was also refused for a blood donation due to insufficient hemoglobin. I need to try iron supplements.
Hate to be that guy but y'all need iron pans. Proper sears at temperatures that would disintegrate Teflon, better and self-healing anti-stick coating than anything else (if used properly), you can use a metal spatula, no more anaemia, what's not to like?
No thanks. I don't really need to sear anything I'm the flames of hell, care is a huge pain, you can't ever fully clean it, it stains dish towels, and it weighs a ton and a half.
Stainless steel all day for me.
My iron pan might very well be lighter than your stainless, it's actually quite flimsy. I guess technically they should be called steel pans because it is steel, as in iron alloyed with carbon but not so much as to make it cast iron, it just isn't stainless.
That said yes stainless is also a proper thing they are very capable when it comes to searing in the flames of hell, but generally more for when you want things to stick and then deglaze. I'd go nuts making eggs in one.
This "you can't even clean it" -- it gets heat-sterilised every use. Patina isn't dirt same as any other protective/functional coating isn't.
Also stainless might have similar iron advantages as non-stainless pans. I repeat: You're not my enemy. People can also keep their enamel pans (old or the new-fangled non-stick ones), very useful if you want to e.g. boil tomato sauce for a while. It's Teflon I actually have an issue with.
Two main problems I have with cast iron - the care that they take is too much effort, and their constant risk of rusting if they're not coated in oil at all times is just too much bullshit to deal with for a kitchen tool. The other issue is that I try as best as I can to do oil-free cooking, and cast iron is antithetical to that.
A baking sheet with parchment paper, in a toaster oven, is significantly more convenient.
Two main problems I have with cast iron - the care that they take is too much effort, and their constant risk of rusting if they’re not coated in oil at all times is just too much bullshit to deal with for a kitchen tool.
I don't use cast iron either they're heavy and I generally don't need the heat capacity. Think De Buyer Mineral B, in that direction.
Care+feeding in the usual case consists of as little as wiping them down with some kitchen tissue, or holding them under water and rummaging around a bit with a bristle brush (don't use a plastic one they can't take the heat), then re-applying oil which is literally a second of work. In nasty cases, steel wool instead of brush.
Explaining all that took longer than actually doing it. Residual heat does most of the work: Evaporating left-over water. It might also already polymerise the new oil a bit, but generally that's done when you heat the pan up rule of thumb if it's not smoking off then you aren't frying at temperature.
Also it's not like the pan would break instantly if you leave it out without a coat of oil. Some fly rust, is all, nothing serious. Scrub it off with steel wool or leave it on it actually doesn't matter iron oxide won't kill you.
The other issue is that I try as best as I can to do oil-free cooking, and cast iron is antithetical to that.
Vilifying fat is a ploy of the sugar and tobacco industry. Literally, it's all well-documented: The sugar industry to sell more sugar, the tobacco industry to blame the epidemic of heart disease on anything but smoking.
Also we're talking about drops, you do not need more than a thin film on the thing. Thin as in "try to get it all off with kitchen tissue". If you burn it off when heating though you need to add some more before adding ingredients, what the Chinese call "hot wok, cold oil", it's a simple and reliable way to get excellent anti-stick. You don't need Chinese amounts of oil for that, maybe a tablespoon (actual one not those strange US measurements).
"I am tired when I get up," this is also a sign of a sleep disorder like narcolepsy or sleep apnea.
It can be a sign of thyroid issues.
Copper, selenium, zinc, and other deficiencies can cause fatigue as well
I just have a lot of sleep inertia. Sleepy when I get up, not sleepy at bed time.
I did also have a vitamin D deficiency without knowing it though.
I was like this. Saw a new rheumatologist who took my various symptoms seriously. Turns out I'm chronically deficient in vitamin D. Had to take weekly megadosea for 3 months and now I'm on a daily supplement of a lower dose. I also started hydroxychloroquine for whatever autoimmune disease I have (I'll hopefully be getting a formal diagnosis on the 16th)
I feel so much better than I did. I actually have a life now and can go out and do things I enjoy.
Absolute life-changing treatment. I've been trying to get rheumatologists to take me seriously for 20 years.
Did your regular bloodwork from your PC doc show a vitamin D deficiency?
Yep. Apparently my records for years showed it and nobody ever said anything to me. I'm looking into replacing a lot of my doctors because of it. I also keep a better eye on results on my own now.
In Turkiye, you can check your blood test results at home with E-nabız, which also shows any irregularities in your blood (as in marks values that are not in the regular range with red). Could there be something similar in your country?
I don't know what you mean by PC so I'm just assuming the doctor is sitting in the doctor room just playing doom 1993
PC stands for Primary Care physician.
Damn turns out I'm not depressed I just needed some magnesium
i know you're joking but fuck, sometimes it do be like that.
Obviously nobody should infantalise people suffering from depression by telling them to "just be happy", "go outside" etc. but if you're malnourished, have vitamin deficiencies, don't go out to hang out with the human tribe, and sit in your home the entire day without moving - you're going to feel like shite. Fixing those problems won't cure clinical depression, but the other way round is true too - getting meds for depression won't cure you of feeling like shit if you don't use the chance they give you to try to improve your life yourself.
I had an iodine deficiency! I wasn't eating dairy or eggs, I was cooking my own food from scratch, and I was using sea salt instead of iodized salt. In addition, I like drinking alcohol which makes it harder to absorb iodine. Felt like shit. Couldn't muster the energy to give the slightest shit about anything.
Got blood work done and found out. So I started taking a supplement every other day for it specifically because I'm just not getting it in my diet. I'm feeling pretty great now.
I don't think supplements are generally the answer, but having a work up done and learning some shit about yourself can be pretty eye opening and point you at what you need to do to fix your diet. It's a good first step, but not a magic bullet.
I know you're joking but I only figured out I have anemia because iron supplements suddenly gave me energy to live
Vitamin deficiencies are easy to detect and to treat, and there's no sense in spending months or years hoping to find the right anti-depressant before checking for them. Heck, I wish my issues were caused by vitamin deficiencies.
That literally happened to me. Turns out that my doctor’s resident who just finished a psych rotation learned that most people are deficient in magnesium.
I am love deficient. Not that I am demanding that people should love me for no reason. Just that I wish I feel loved a tiny bit. I know that the fault is most probably with me too.
Edit: I feel like I am stuck in a loop, I feel self-pity because I don’t feel loved. I am probably not loved because I feel self-pity. Breaking the cycle is hard.
Our communities are setup like that. We're separated from eachother, and we can't afford to spend enough time at local third places to feel community. Church also used to be central to community and most people aren't religious, but nothing has replaced the churches role in community building.
It's rough. If you can get out to places nearby where people congregate that will be nice. Getting a dog is nice too if you like dogs, they give you love and accept your love and they're a good ice breaker. They also force you out regularly. You can take the dog to dog parks and chat with locals.
It's not your fault. Humans are a social animal and we built cities and an economy that didn't consider that.
It is important that you love yourself. In fact, I think it's important that you feel loved by someone, even if that somebody is yourself.
Hugs from an internet stranger!
I need a good daily vitamin. I just need to bite the bullet and order some. I swear some things wrong with me truly are because I eat 99 cent ramens for dinner because I just don't want to spend money on food that's good for me lol.
NGL, I've spent a decade wondering why I couldn't sleep at night and couldn't concentrate all day, only to finally realize I was constantly low on electrolytes because of my intense exercise routine.
And if anyone is wondering, sports drinks are worthless sugary drinks shrouded in "sporty" marketing. Vitamin D, Calcium and Magnesium is what helped me (and are far more cost efficient than sports drinks). Consult a doctor.
FWIW I already take these vitamins daily, along with magnesium, zinc, copper, folate, manganese, boron, St. John's Wort, Ashwagandha, Tumeric, SAM-e, Saffron, Kratom, Ginko Baloba, L-theanine, along with a nightly dose of Valerian Root, L-Tryptophan, lemon balm extract, 5-HTP, and 500+ mg of a high THC extract, and I'm still tired and miserable all the time.
Even walking 20k+ steps a day at my job isn't enough. I've never been healthier and more depressed. Tried therapy for a decade but gave up when I couldn't find a single therapist I can relate with. Not even pharmaceuticals helped me. I've accepted the fact that I am just going to be perpetually tired and miserable for the rest of my life and there's nothing anyone can do to help.
(FWIW I don't take kratom daily. Only at work. And the dosage of THC can range from as low as 100mg all the way up to a full gram of pure THC distillate. Yes these are accurate numbers. I live in a legal state and can get distillate for $5/g. I have a high tolerance and don't get high anymore; just sleepy. If I don't have any THC in my system, I can't sleep at all no matter how tired I am. The insomnia was hell until I discovered weed in my 20s).
My sibling in science, I have consumed enough weed in my life to earn me an approving nod from Snoop himself, but on the off chance you’re not shitposting:
500mg is entirely too much for a nighttime dose. You are not getting any proper REM sleep at all if you’re actually doing this to yourself every night. Take a fuckin T-break man.
500+ mg THC? That's a lot.
And he doesn't understand why he's always tired
Makes me wonder if it was a typo, but even 50+ mg is quite a bit.
Honestly I think it's most likely that you're simply overworked. (many/most people are)
I think that being overworked, together with emotional instability/lack of security, are the most prevalent causes of mental illnesses in our society today. It's no "chemical imbalance in your brain" story. Sure, there's chemical imbalance, but where does that imbalance come from? I guess it's mostly that our bodies aren't built for today's demands.
Kratom is not a health supplement.
Nor is pot. This guy is abusing drugs and asking why he's depressed.
I don't even believe they took 0.5g of THC, that's an insane amount. Unless they mean over a long period of time. The standard dose you can buy is 10mg.
It's not insane for heavy users - they sell 1g brownies in dispensaries, these days. That being said, it's neither cheap nor is there any debate of it being a medicine at that level. Dude's just getting blasted every day and wondering why he's tired
Is that actually 1g of pure THC, or is that like the weight of the extract or something? I can't imagine the tolerance you would need, any normal person would be passed out for an entire day taking that.
Maybe cut out the THC? It's a depressant.
I think this person is on the opposite end and is overwhelming him/herself with too much supplements...
Have you tried yoga?