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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Mass in seconds? How? I get mass in Joules, but seconds?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

There are two possibilities I can think of:

  • Orbit duration can be used to calculate mass
  • The diameter of a star or the parallax distance on the sky (in arcseconds) can also be used to evaluate mass
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Size doesn't say much about mass though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I thought stars of similar masses were also of similar sizes. They're not?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I'm no astrologer but from what I've learned, we also need to look at the color to glassify stars into categories. It varies a bit though in each category so it's a blunt tool.

Then there are other objects like gas clouds and even galaxies. For those, we have no idea of the density distribution, so radial size gives us even less info.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I measure the mass of my stool by seconds it takes to discharge

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Well the modern definition of a kg is based off of the second and the metre https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilogram :P

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

I'm hungry for more; may I have seconds?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Also angles

Would love to hear how mass is measured in seconds though

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Set G = 1 and c =1. Then equations like r = 2m make dimensional sense.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometrized_unit_system

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My brother, that explanation is not nearly dumbed down enough and as with most math wiki is useless for eli5 stuff.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think a lot of people understand the concept of light-seconds, which can measure distance in seconds.

Allow me to introduce the gravity-second. 1 gravity-second of mass-energy is enough mass-energy to have a Schwarzchild radius of 2 light-seconds.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I get what you're saying but am still too dumb to understand it lol

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Size of a black hole.

Certain mass = certain distance

Distance = seconds

Therefore mass = seconds

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Then I don't even want to be in same solar system with millisecond heavy object.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

You most certainly don't, that's a radius of about 300km (186 miles) and a mass of 101 suns.

Even if you meant microsecond, that's 1/10 of the sun, and would be very disruptive.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fun fact: Seconds are called seconds because the first breakdown of an hour is the minute, and the second breakdown is the second. Don't ask me the obvious question(s) because I don't know.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If by obvious question you mean “why is it called a minute,” that is because “minute” means “small.” So you have the first minute (small) part and the second minute part of the hour.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

As a theoretical physicist, units are for chumps

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's easy to remember c and ℏ if they're both 1...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Constance? Never heard of her

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Oh god, no fluid mechanics is way too difficult. I stuck to studying quantum effects of black holes, which is much easier.

(This isn't a joke, it's literally true)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Rocket scientists be like:

Fuel efficiency: seconds.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I know some people that should measure their weight in mass per second.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Wait, how do you measure mass in seconds?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Time taken for me to eat that mass of hotdogs

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Choking_Hazard.txt

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Just as particle physicists measure everything in energy (eV to be precise...)

Mass? eV Energy? eV Distance? 1/eV Time? Guess what: 1/eV as well! This also means velocity has unit 1...

And the worst part: it turns out to be extremely useful!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Don't they measure distance and time by redshift (ie colour)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What even is color if not seconds^-1?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah true, but I think they actually use wavelength of red shift, which is distance.... traveled by light in the time it takes to make a full cycle. So I guess we're back to seconds again.

I think they use this for distance and time because at scales being dealt with they have the same implications.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They normally use parallax-seconds, i.e. parsecs, for long distance objects.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think you need to be more specific than 'long distance', yes they use parsecs for 'long distances' but I believe only for intra-galactic objects. I think other galaxies are too distant for parallax seconds to be useful.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Fair!

Thanks for this bit of clarification

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Rads. But radians are fine too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Tau (τ). A full circle is just 1τ instead of 2π.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but everything else is more annoying. 1+e^i(0.5τ)=0 just doesn't hit the same

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Euler's identity with tau simplifies to:

e^iτ^ = 1

So it's actually simpler. See: https://tauday.com/tau-manifesto#sec-euler_s_identity

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Sure, it's simpler; but it's less elegant

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Why is the astrophysicist wearing gloves? Is he trying to dispose of a body?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Everything should just be in eV. Particle physics natural units are the best.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Can I get a conversation table?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Me: not smart enough to understand

Brain: Quick! Say something to sound like you fit in!

Me: uh ... I just did the Kessel Run in under 12 parsecs!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But do you remember the Krebs Cycle?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

!https://i.ytimg.com/vi/27x0wiuTYoE/maxresdefault.jpg

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