Is he telling us he considers himself low T? Because it looks like he's believing something he saw on 4chan.
He’s so dense he doesn’t realize he’s the low T person being described, not the alpha male.
He’s posting 4chan screenshots now?
Oh, so right-wing men with the right genes are the chad and everyone else is the soyjak.
Truly an "interesting observation," thanks Elon.
And by "right genes" they mean "my Daddy is rich" of course.
"High T alpha males" oh good, they invented a new gender again and it sucks.
Bring out the scones and cucumber sandwiches, it's high T!
"Pele who can't defend themselves physically"
Like Elon, who pulled out of a fight he tried to start with Zuck because he'd get his ass kicked?
I think his mom told him not to.
I'm still hoping this happens and leads to a WWE style outcome.
Elon has a heart attack on the ring and falls on top of Zuck pinning and smothering him. Zuck is forced to tap and Elon is stretchered out the ring
high T alpha male
in other words, an asshole
Whenever you find yourself thinking about "how to get rid of the others", you've already taken a wrong turn somewhere like this.
Although I think it's fair to think about getting rid of those who want to get rid of others. Just make it a hard line: only those, no others.
I guess they forgot that people like Martin Luther King Jr. got shot and killed for speaking out against these so called "high T, alpha males."
Being proud of using intimidation tactics is fucking weird and pathetic. Blaming it on garbage pseudo science lowers the bar into degeneracy. THEN turning it into victim blaming...."you're too weak to have anything worthwhile to contribute" is just... wow.
Evolutionary psychology was an interesting hypothesis, but it will never recover from these dipshits utilizing it as the loudest dog whistle in history...used to justify sexism and bigotry. I wish they'd all get in elons rocket and be the first people to land on the sun.
Why some of the smartest people can be so very stupid | Psyche Ideas
Basically many people who have the raw processing power or "IQ" to understand and analyse things can still lack certain "mental infrastructure" or education to understand things. This is especially atrocious for narrow minded people who actively rejected new information that doesn't fit into their mental comfort zone. Musk is definitely one of them.
This is the reason why we can't have nice things.
Musk is definitely one of them.
I've yet to see any evidence that Musk is particularly smart. What I've mostly seen is his ability to throw big parties and charm investors with bullshit business speak, while riding a wave of lucky bets and state subsidies to billionaire-hood.
No he's not. But he's also far from dumb.
‘On Stupidity’ (1937). At its heart was the idea that stupidity was not mere ‘dumbness’, not a brute lack of processing power. Dumbness, for Musil, was ‘straightforward’, indeed almost ‘honourable’. Stupidity was something very different and much more dangerous: dangerous precisely because some of the smartest people, the least dumb, were often the most stupid.
Musk is far from genius level but above average intelligence. He does have knowledge about rockets on a non-engineering level which you can see e.g. in this video talking about his starfactory (EDIT: Yes watching him in his element is kinda painful, knowing he's a fascist)
But he and others like him focus their thinking narrow mindedly on the pursuit of profit. Every decision is based on gaining wealth. THAT is by far the bigger problem.
Besides the focus of all education towards profit seeking, technical nerds also seem to "want to" see other fields like sociology or politics or history in a simple and easy to explain way. So they seek principles or the most simplistic social theories that don't explain anything real. Musk certainly falls into that.
Except now where he seems to go completely off the rails. Possibly a symptom of narcissism ever since he became unpopular, he's doubling down to find new validation for his fragile ego. So yeah in that sense he is not the best example.
My point was not just about Musk but about the idea of "finding the smartest people to rule". Because to anybody who is above intelligence that sounds smart except - stupidity can be more dangerous in intelligent people.
but above average intelligence
Maybe once. But that much Ketamine, plus his advanced age and excessive social media exposure, has degraded his ability to process information substantively.
He does have knowledge about rockets on a non-engineering level
He has prepared statements to read to a friendly interviewer. That's PR, not intelligence.
Besides the focus of all education towards profit seeking, technical nerds also seem to “want to” see other fields like sociology or politics or history in a simple and easy to explain way.
Musk isn't technical, he's a finance bro. And while I agree there's a strong "Education should be about making money" propaganda wave, I've noticed a lot of backtracking on this any time some group of labor activists starts passing around the financial reports of the publicly traded company to their coworkers. Then, all of a sudden, the finance bros become obsessed with sociology, politics, and history, at least in so far as they keep shouting and pointing to Venezuela any time someone at the firm mentions the company health care policy.
My point was not just about Musk but about the idea of “finding the smartest people to rule”. Because to anybody who is above intelligence that sounds smart except - stupidity can be more dangerous in intelligent people.
The fixation on "intelligence" as a discrete and quantifiable measure is what bothers me more than anything. I like to look at track records more than hypothetical quantifiers. Even if Elon were a "genius", I won't particularly appreciate the pro-eugenics track that brain power has sent him.
But I find it particularly galling when people conflate intelligence and success. So much of the modern economic system is about who you know rather than what you know. Elon Musk had access to enormous amounts of cheap credit, which he used to take a series of highly profitable gambles. He then leveraged his winnings to pull on more cheap credit.
Even setting aside whether that's "smart" or "stupid", I would say its a reflection of statistical probability. There are thousands of guys like Elon. Some make it, others don't. But what defines Elon in the end is simply luck. Recognizing him as exceptionally fortunate, rather than exceptionally smart or savvy, means pealing off the layers of PR and revealing the human underneath.
Musk is definitely one of them.
Musk is a rich trust fund baby whose fortune started off the back of Apartheid. It's not a shocker that he's a mask-off racist. He's done nothing to prove himself a genius, just a skilled grifter and financier.
I'd say it's more people who are repeatedly told they are smart can be very stupid.
Many of then might even be "smart", but the important part is having unwarranted confidence.
Complicating things is that society rewards confidence way more than it rewards competence. If I'm honest about a lack of competence in a certain area but someone else lies during the interview, good chance they are going to get the job over me.
The reality is that everyone can be very very stupid, and so long as each and every one of us is willing to accept and recognize our weakness we aren't as likely to be assholes.
It's funny how I've tried to bring some of that most blokey guys I have come across on mountaineering and such, and the vast majority weasal out of it
And the biggest badasses I know always drive the most basic cars lol
If you're an actual car guy, you're probably driving some absolute piece of shit that you've been continuously breathing life into for the last ten years.
The folks with the real high end luxury stuff just end up leaving their vehicles in the shop for half the year.
"Critical thinking skills only count if they're MY critical thinking skills" do they not see the irony?
There is a baseline assumption that "logical thinking" means everyone reaches the same conclusions.
Or if they're like a few people I know...whose critical thinking skills are "parrot opinions from someone who I think is almost as smart as me (according to me) because I exclusively listen to them"
This is not real, right? RIGHT?
Wtf
He always finds new depths to sink to.
Just like the OceanGate Titan.
Imagine thinking that you’re tougher than context.
I assume this is referring to William Reich the psychoanalyst. His books look interesting in the way all kooky psychoanalysis crankery does, but I don't think he ever wrote about high T alpha males before dying in 1957.
He did write about about how fascists gain power by sexually repressing the population though. I'm sure Elon would hate his views on that.
Do you want 'the handmaid's tale'? Cause that is how... You do? Oh
All the "high T alpha males" I've ever met are also the least critical thinkers I've ever met.
And none of them have ever backed it up with a blood test
>be me >high T alpha male born to breed and lead >go to doc to confirm I am the most alpha of all >doc says your T levels are through the roof >fuck yeah it is I am a total chad >doc is like nah bruh you got the big C >mfw I only have 6 weeks to live
TLDR; "weak people have to conform to social consensus otherwise they get hurt I guess?"
I, on the other hand, am a big, strong, high T alpha male, that isn't worried about what anyone thinks! I am a free thinker, and I know my opinions are correct because I instantly based this entire opinion on a subjective, anecdotal view of the world that I then extrapolated meaning out of, the best evidence! /s
Adventures in bad sociology, fascism, and gender/neurological chauvinism with our favorite billionaire.
I assume this is objective truth then, something that definitely exists and we can definitely know. I'm sure they have plenty of science to back it up.
They wouldn't just hear a bunch of thinly disguised bullshit built on the back of junk science and take it at face value without checking if any of it is real, not this person with their special objective truth brain.
Alpha males ain't shit. I'm a Neutrino male. Highest penetration power 😤
Inb4 people start taking a Lemmy shitpost seriously and argue with it.
I mean its an interesting subject so why not? The whole "what would the tribe think" thing is definitely real. But where they went wrong is thinking that this is a bad thing. Its literally the only reason humanity has survived so long. Without some sort of consensus there is no cooperation and no tribe.
The issue of "bruteforceability" stems from the fact that too many people are terminally online. In fact Musk is the prime example of someone that has fallen victim to this.
as someone with autism do NOT let us control everything. You'd get 27,000 cats and a ton of trains without any issues being solved.
I think a ton of trains would actually solve a lot of issues
A ton of trains would be less than one train
Fine, we'll upgrade to a shit ton instead.
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