I've used it for a bit, and it's really really nice. I just don't know if I trust it to keep up with security updates, especially something so sensitive as a web browser.
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It's just Firefox with a custom skin.
I know, but that means it needs to keep its firefox source version up to date to keep up with security, and as its source diverges more and more from vanilla firefox, it'll get harder to do that.
Plus they've already proved to be amateurs by enabling some things that really shouldn't have been enabled: https://github.com/zen-browser/desktop/pull/927.
Yeah enabling remote debugging because the dev thought it made it easier is a pretty big oof.
But this is just strike one. It's a one man show, after all, so cutting them some slack is warranted when it comes to this specific topic.
Nevertheless, your concerns aren't unfounded. This project needs more contributors to be able to keep up. (Thorium is basically in the same boat)
I'll wait and see before I actually make a decision for real. But so far, not looking great.
A great custom skin, and far better defaults for both privacy and speed, based on Betterfox.
The fact that a fork that simply has a better UI and default settings is gaining so much popularity shows how bad Mozilla is fumbling their product.
Zen browser has some Vivaldi and ARC browser customization features. That could be an interesting difference.
So far it's been in sync with Firefox Nightly.
So far, yes, but it's early days for it, and I suspect it will get harder and harder to keep up.
The UI/UX is so good for a one-person team that I hope it embarrasses Mozilla into actually making serious improvements to their browser for the first time in a decade.
With Google influence? I'd really love to see it, no sarcasm.
The UI looks mostly like Firefox IMO. Critically, it's just as slow as Firefox.
Can you use FF extensions with it? The web site doesn't say one way or the other.
yes. it's Firefox with some extra UI modifications, but it's the same thing under the hood.
Definitely as already answered, but I'll also add they have a "theme store" which is kind of a bespoke userChrome.css tool. It isn't just themes, but it is in addition to, not in lieu of Firefox extensions.
Yeah
nice. gonna give it a try. the more Firefox in this world the better.
So Firefox with a user.js and a CSS theme. I'm not saying Zen Browser is bad. But it's nothing new.
The css theme is new.
give it a try, it is quite interesting
Finally, I can replace Arc browser! Floorp was terrible.
Floorp didn't impress me either, but I'm not sure yet that I can 100% replace my awesome Arc workflow. The "Air Traffic Control" with profile / space combinations is spectacular. But I'll find a way to make it work, because I really prefer FOSS when possible.
I tried Floorp and didn't like it either, I'm glad there's a more promising looking project out there now. Still great to see more development in the Firefox/Gecko ecosystem. We don't need more Chromium garbage.
100% Chromium monopoly needs to die.
What is this Arc?
Chromium based browser
Does it support Firefox Sync or offer a similar solution/integration?
It uses Forefox Sync.
Supports FF Sync.
I was such a HUGE fan of Floorp until I saw the main dev behind it talk about how they wanted to start looking into ways to “monetize” the browser. Just really turned me off and I went back to Firefox.
Needless to say, this looks AWESOME, and I hope that more people find it and try it out. (After the early bugs are ironed out, of course).
Good job devs!
now that I have been spoiled by floorp with workspaces, I have to ask... does it do workspaces? I can't find it on the site if it does
It does indeed. There is a button in the top left for it by default.
awesome, thanks!
Fast Profile switching? I’m downloading this immediately when I get home.
The profile switching is just that of Firefox, but with a button that makes it a bit more accessible. And there is the concept of workspaces within a given profile, but I haven't quite figured out how to set it up best for my workflow yet.
I jump between a lot of profiles for work and chrome makes that too easy. It’s the only thing holding me back from switching to Firefox.
I’m digging it so far! Definitely nice to have more FF-based options 🦊
I've been using it everyday for the past 2 weeks and have enjoyed my time with it. Looks like a very promising browser.
The more Firefox the better.
Just started playing around with it. I like it so far.
Waiting for it in nixpkgs :). Tried it out in flatpak and i loved it
Switched to it as my default. Its store nice and their theme store system is great
Been using it as my only browser since launch, super pleased with the experience so far. Really hope this sticks around for a long time.
Maybe it's the portable version I'm using, but I can't figure out how to click and drag the window. There's nowhere up top to grab and move to another monitor/shift around on the screen. Am I going crazy or is there a different way to move it around?
right click on the space around the URL bar, choose "Customize toolbar...", and then check "Title Bar" in the bottom left corner.
hmm maybe its the portable version then..I can click and drag just fine. I can also adjust it with superkey+arrow keys or with kwin.
I added a "Flexible Space" portion to the top and that allowed me to click and drag. Otherwise I had to use Alt+Space+M to make it moveable.
You really shouldn't be using software that is in alpha stage of development, as the only browser.
There may be bugs and vulnerabilities no one has run into yet and bork your browser data.
arrest me
Oh no not my data!