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"History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes"

The Alternative for Germany (AfD) is the first far-right party to win a state election in Germany since the Second World War, giving it unprecedented power, even if other parties are sure to exclude it.

Voters in two closely watched elections in the former communist east made their dissatisfaction with Germany's mainstream political parties clear, putting the Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) party in the top spot in Thuringia, with 32.8% of the vote, and second place in Saxony, with 30.7%, according to final results.

The leader of the AfD in Thuringia, Hoecke is one of Germany's most controversial far-right politicians and was fined twice this year for deliberately using a banned Nazi slogan.

The upcoming government formations will probably take a long time, and the outcome is completely uncertain.

Edit:
While I understand the source for data displayed is important, it’s a bit random in this case, but here:

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Just a heads-up: The fact that they got more votes than any other party doesn't automatically mean that they'll lead the government. An anti-fascist coalition is still possible if the other parties work together. It will be difficult since the conservative party will have to form a coalition with three leftist parties. But it isn't impossible.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

One of those leftist parties BSW is almost as fascist. They want to stop supporting Ukraine and get back to buying gas from Russia. I'd put them in the tankie camp.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

Are they on Lemmy? Seems like they would fit right in with some crowds here.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

BSW are nearly equalky obnoxious. So fuck them and their supporters as well..

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You know liberals opposing communists (and working with fascists) is how Hitler got into power right?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They are not communists, though.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I know they probably do suck, but they're better than literal fascists

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Too bad there's no other options, just those two parties

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Correct, the options are for CDU, BSW, and either Die Linke or SPD to form a coalition, or AFD to form a coalition.

I find it difficult to imagine that BSW could be worse than CDU, whom they'll have to form a coalition with, let alone AfD.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

They're not.

They're practically the same but in red instead of brown

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

The fact that they got more votes than any other party doesn't automatically mean that they'll lead the government

Yeah this was my thought too. The word "win" in this context is fairly ambiguous so I won't say it's used wrongly here, but I will say it's probably better to use it to refer to the party that actually ends up forming government. That might be AfD, but at 32% they'll need to find at least 18% of seats to be their junior partner first.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Conservatives are fascists that don't know they can get away with it. It's impossible.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 2 months ago

We humans are really fucking stupid sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

A very dark day for Germany.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I would very, very quickly analyse the material conditions that have led to this and take massive steps to rectify the issue.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Behind the schedule, I guess

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Please attribute the graphic and the accompanying description with a link to the source.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think that’s a bit random in this case, but I did my best…

The main message is AfD is winning, which has been at least all over the news in Germany and I guess also in international media. And then comparing two dates, and the date of the invasion of Poland (and the start of WWII) should be well known in Europe?

But I did my best to fulfill your request.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

@[email protected] This post seemed like you copied a social-media post — you could have just linked there. Also, thanks for your updates!

(Fwiw, I never questioned whether this graphic is accurate.)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

There wasn’t a link to a source either. And I doesn’t like to link to a META platform.

I think it is okay the way it is.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I realize FB/Instagram are bad & they encourage creators to put links in the bio, which is bullshit. However, copying from FB/Instagram without attribution to the original channel still seems like the worse option.