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What happened in the vegan community?

I hadn't heard about any of this until seeing that ToS post.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The long and short of it is, One of the lemmy.world admins demoted a mod of the vegan community over a comment about how cat can be fed a 100% vegan diet with supplements and the cat will be fine.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Wtf is happening in the comments. Why are people getting so insane over this topic over and over again? If there's cat food out there that's nutritional complete, cats like it, and it happens to be plant based - so what? The only two reasons to object are if someone is 100% convinced such a product doesn't and cannot exist or if they're entirely ideological about it. And if we have to apply the naturalistic fallacy that only the natural way can be morally okay, why of all things argue about pet food? I really, really don't get it why people get so intensely emotional about it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If there's cat food out there that's nutritional complete, cats like it, and it happens to be plant based - so what?

Because the vegan cat food that claims to be nutritionally complete isn't. Whenever these brands have their products studied they turn out to not be nutritionally complete. Feeding them to a cat is abuse.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (6 children)

So they should simply start producing one that is. Problem solved. No law of nature prevents us from supplementing the right amount of taurine and b12, so there is no reason to be irrational about it.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

If only this was readily researchable....

But yeah, animal cruelty gets people het up. This is the internet, don't fuck with cats

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What should stop a company from supplementing the right amount of all the nutrients listed? The article simply claims it's not nutritionally complete, but that would only be an argument against the brands currently available and tested, not against the idea in principle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Studies have shown that cats do not absorb adequate amounts of these nutrients from synthetic supplemented versions, it's why vegan pet food that is technically nutritionally complete in the bag isn't when it's in the cat.

Vegans should instead opt for a non-carnivorous pet

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That's bullshit and you know it, otherwise you would have at least attempted to back up that claim.

A very short internet research attempt shows: Synthetic taurine is considered efficacious for use in cat, dog and carnivorous fish.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (68 children)

What an asshole vegan. How stupid can you be to say you love animals and say something as dumb as this

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I once gave a vegan friend of mine pause for thought when I pointed out that we probably shouldn't be keeping pets in the first place if those pets aren't in their natural habitat doing what their species evolved to do. They had cats.

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