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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

This shutdown is getting pretty embarrassing. It seems there was very little thought put into 3G reliance beyond consumer electronics in metropolitan areas. Another one not mentioned in the article is the emergency phones in lifts, many of which will cease to operate when 3G is switched off.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This thing should be shelved indefinitely. We're taking a massive chunk of the coverage area and scrapping it with 0 intention of applying a better solution here, all so people can get their twitter and email faster.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Better allocation of spectrum is not just for social media. That's like saying nbn was not needed as what we had before was fast enough for email.

While, we should not reduce coverage just to increase band with, we should not dismiss the imoirtnace of band with and the limited available spectrum.

Certainly in less populous areas where spectrum band with is not a problem, perhaps we could keep 3g coverage.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Better allocation of spectrum is not just for social media. That’s like saying nbn was not needed as what we had before was fast enough for email.

Kind of disagree. NBN didnt cost network to deploy. Well, kind of but kind of not. What does faster netflix mean to someone in a fringe 3g area when we upgrade their 5GN that they cant get anyway?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone's really suggesting we keep 3g in the metro areas. Almost the entirety of the greater Melbourne area has 4g, with a fair chunk having 5g, and I think most major cities in the country have almost complete 4g coverage.

But in the country, there's so many places I've been through, even in the last few months, where I've only had 3g/H+, that I also don't foresee them rolling out 4g to any time soon, let alone the any time this decade. 3g can travel further than 4g, and a lot further than 5g, which means it's all well and good that they've converted all of their 3g towers to also have 4g dishes, but unless they actually build new 4g towers, it's still a net downgrade.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The article points out that consumer phones aren't an issue. Its things like lifts with a 3g fallback for emergencies, with non4g capabikitybthat is the issue.

That's the issue. They havnt planned for anything except consumer devices. Android is now recommending 2g be disabled for security, also, so less devices will try to connect to older network infrastructure over time.

I dont see how the telco vsnt see what devices are connecting and where, given their Sims are linked tons customer when they ping a tower. Surely they can identify the devices if they wanted. It might be there are just too many.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

@hitmyspot @Baku

I have a 4G phone. #Optus has been telling me for months it will no longer work when they switch 3G off.

They won’t tell me why though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Ask your manufacturer.

Basically: if your phone is "4g" but you get told it's gonna get cut off when they tank the 3g network, then that most likely means the phone doesn't support Voice Over Long Term Evolution (volte) ...... it uses 3g for calls.