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[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 months ago (1 children)

about time...

Start pushing for mastodon! Honestly there should be an official mastodon instance

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I mean there should be a mastodon.gov.uk

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's.....actually a cool AF idea/inplementation of Fediverse shit. A practical use as well, as they'd control who was on the instance and would be a sorta pseudo-verification process for any accounts on it's own.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think it's perfect for governments. You can subscribe anywhere, you know it's legit, and that's a much better way to do notifications than twitter.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah I'm not entirely well-versed in the implications of what that would allow, but it's another use-case that would be cool to see!

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Yeah, but then again, do you want a government controlled social media? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

The government could control social media on their own instance, sure.

I think having government accounts come from an official instance would garner more trust in the platform.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not.... it's the fediverse. I'm completely fine with them having their own instance, it's not like they control it by any means. Hell they can be defederated. It's a lot better than them choosing some random instance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Then it should be only for government officials.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think the distributed nature of Mastodon keeps government control from being an issue. It would be kind of cool as a space for citizens to ask for assistance or air grievances while giving the politicians an officially owned space for things like announcements.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Totally agree. The issues with "government-controlled social media" are a non-issue in a federated environment, and the URL would give them legitimacy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I don't want a private company controlling government email servers, why would I want them to control government social media platforms?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

What you don't like pot holes in your roads? XD We can easily host our own server where the database password is already 123456

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Be careful. He might sue saying you have to use the platform. He'll claim that not using it hurts his free speech.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, not sure the UK Labour party are going to be receptive to a free speech argument, given recent events. If anything, an updated law might make X liable for the real-world problems it causes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can you explain this point?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There was/is a wave of far-right riots happening in the UK, which involved a lot lotting and attacks on Muslims. This was triggered by a stabbing in Southport and a lie that spread on social media claiming that the perpetrator was a Muslim migrant that came to the UK on a 'small boat' crossing the channel (he was actually born and grew up in Cardiff). Musk may be liable because during the riots he made several posts undermining the government's attempts to quell the unrest and his general failure to tackle disinformation spreading on Twitter, such as the Muslim migrant lie.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Fair point. I thought you were implying the opposite.

I read it as implying Labour is anti-free speech for clamping down on racist hate speech and mob mentality.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Arresting people for things they say even when they aren't threats is anti-free speech and the UK and many European countries do not allow free speech. You can be arrested for even saying Israelis genociding Palestinians are Nazis.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No you cannot. Assuming you're not from the UK.

Stirring up racial hatred and geeing people up to burn down hotels holding refugees is not free speech.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I specifically said things that aren't threats. Just because you don't like what they say doesn't mean that it isn't free speech.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You sound like you get your knowledge of European and British laws from tabloid journalism

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

Since when did the NYT become tabloid journalism?

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/10/world/europe/germany-pro-palestinian-protests.html

Or Wikipedia?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_the_United_Kingdom

Which says, "there is no general right to free speech in the UK."

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Politicians and public should consider quitting X, says Liverpool mayor

"The time is approaching where we’ve got to all examine whether we should, en masse, withdraw from it and for there to be a different platform"

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

People in the UK need to start pushing Mastodon hard. You could use the tagline "You don't want to switch services again in a few years, do you?"

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Only now? It's been two years of this and now they've had too much? No partial credit should be given for people that continued to participate when it was clear what was happening.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Also, I don't believe a significant number of them actually will.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

checks watch

Uh, sure. Now is good. Several years ago was better, but, yeah.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

The second best time is now.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't enable his embarrassing nonsense by calling Twitter "X".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

unfortunately their current style guide results in this headline.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Have barely touched Twitter since Muskification ruined it.

Threads is okay but Mastodon would be brill with more interaction.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bluesky is really nice. It’s like mastodon but with an algorithm. Still decentralised and FOSS. Plus it bridges with mastodon well.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I love that there are so many options for nuSocial tbh. Federation rocks.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

I hope the canadian mps and mlas follow suit.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

It’s rare to see such a big fuck up as with twitter…

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Is it finally time? The beginning of the end?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

If they actually worried about hate and disinformation they would have quit before it was called X.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Labour MPs begin quitting X over ‘hate and disinformation’

Why does this happen? Lemmy doesn't get mentioned in articles, but Lemmy is still fairly small. Last I checked, Mastodon is doing well against the competitors. BBC even has an experimental instance

https://www.bbc.com/rd/blog/2023-07-mastodon-distributed-decentralised-fediverse-activitypub

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Depends on the writer, chances are that those in the bbc who are involved with the mastodon instance are the nerds (like us) and the writer of this article doesn't know as much and is just listing the places the MPs went, and they are politicians so they wouldn't know about the "nerdy options"