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Ghosts (lemmy.world)
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[-] [email protected] 90 points 1 month ago

Thank you for this daily dose of existential dread 👌

[-] [email protected] 62 points 1 month ago

Are they also unbound by momentum?

[-] [email protected] 53 points 1 month ago

TIL that ghosts are pinned to the lumineferous aether.

[-] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago

With the Earth's elliptical orbit, momentum would only get you so far in terms of sticking with the planet.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

relative to the galactic central point, per Eric Idle, the earth would be 200k/125 miles away in a single second, or relative to everything in the universe / background radiation, it would be 23,000 miles (37,000 km) away in a single second.

Preserving momentum in different directions and you quickly double it

Assuming an even rate of death, that's just under 2 people dying per second currently, so you wouldn't even be able to see the people who died before or after you if you retained human senses as a ghost.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

If this were true we could then actually use ghosts to determine the "true" universal reference frame, right?

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Even with a circular orbit, if you're unbound by gravity you'll follow a straight path while the Earth curves, resulting in it appearing to accelerate away from you.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah they would go flying off into space relative to earth but I was more referring to the idea that they’d somehow become stationary due to being immune to gravity. That wouldn’t be sufficient on its own.

[-] [email protected] 55 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We already had a discussion about how that doesn't make sense with this different comic: https://lemmy.ml/post/14518058

Different comic with the exact same premise from the above post

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Right, at the very least it would be a non overlapping spiral, as our sun orbits the galactic center

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Who’s “we” tho? It’s like a 4 month old post.

Funny tho I wonder if the artist read that thread and got the idea for this comic or if it’s just a case of like minds.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I wonder …from the thred

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah i has issues with that one this one makes more sense for amount of deaths per day

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[-] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago
[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Now we know what dark matter is

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Einstein would like to have a word with you

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

several physicists are typing…

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

The butthole is what really makes this comic

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Is the reference frame the CMB? You'd think you could just choose the reference frame at that point and move however you want, but arguing the physics of hypothetical metaphysical beings probably doesn't make much sense.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

SpaceGhost(s)! Coast to (galactic) coast!

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Zorak is the hammer! Me!!! ZORAK IS THE HAMMER!!!

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

The only things that aren't bound by gravity are massless. Massless things always have to be moving at the speed of light. So really the question is, what direction would the ghost shoot off to? Momentum would have to be preserved, so it'd be the opposite direction of where the corpse drops. Or maybe the corpse just move a teensy bit to the opposite direction of the ghost?

Note: this assumes Newtonian or at least semi classical physics. In general relativity, there is no such thing as being unbound by gravity.

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

This actually explains a lot.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

I have a memory of seeing this exact idea in another comic on here but can’t find it! (Assuming it is a case of multiple discovery and not plagiarism)

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

That explains why there are no ghosts.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

No Earth ghosts, only... Space Ghosts...

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Even the galaxy fucks off very quickly from you.

But now we know who inhabits all those spoopy voids.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

By this line of thinking, dying in a mass tragedy might be the best thing that could happen to you. At least you wouldn't be in solitary confinement for eternity.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah, but....imagine if I were in that mass tragedy with you. You're telling me you wouldn't rather be alone for eternity, than with me for eternity?

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I mean, I'm sure there's a statistic that someone can look up but as many people as are on the planet, I feel like there would always be someone within shouting distance if not closer. I guess it really depends on how fast the earth is moving and what the frame of reference is.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You're underestimating the distances and speeds involved. The earth is traveling at 67,000 mph around the sun and the sun is traveling 514,000 mph around the galactic core and takes 225 million years to do one orbit. Even if two people died within a second of each other, they'd be 100+ miles away from each other.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Here is a sad face...

Earth orbits the sun. The sun orbits the super cluster in the middle of the galaxy. The galaxy is flying off into space being pulled on by other galaxies. The earth will never occupy the same expect space if you factor in all the movements. If you were holding the hand of your loved one and the two of you died withing a thenth of a second apart you would not be able to see them by the time difference at those speeds.

Though its all relative how you want to measure and what you want to measure.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

The earth moves at 18 miles per second in orbital velocity alone, there aren't people within shouting distance of me now, and the opposite site of the planet from me is 80 miles off the coast of Madagascar. If I die at home I'm alone forever unless my wife goes at the same instant.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

according to this site, there are 166k desths per day; which works out to about 7k deaths per hour or a little under 120 deaths per minute (around 2 deaths per second).

even if you get paired with somebody who dies in the same quadrant as you, there's a good chance that that person will be an annoying prick.

so the maths bears out. the commenter to whom you replied is correct in saying that--if the ghost-no-gravity theory is true--you would be better off dying in a mini-mass-massacre event.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago
[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Galactic!

{galactic coast to galactic coast}

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Awesome idea for a Lovecraftian horror story. Maybe the ghosts leave a scent trail that attracts a ghost-eating planet-sized alien

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

That alien's name?

Pac-Man.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Reminded me of the movie Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within (2001), except the ghosts are alien ghosts, not human ghosts.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

My dad downloaded and showed me some lewd images of the MC once. He was laughing his ass off while doing so. Proto-rule34.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

We move (with the Sun) around the Milky Way at about 792.000 km/h. At that speed, you wouldn't even see the earth getting away from you.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

So you're telling me there are space ghosts, from coast to coast? 😮

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

They're often depicted as bound to a person or place, though.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Morale of the story: Take out as many people as you can when you go so you're not lonely for eternity.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Sounds like Scientology 💩

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I think about this way more than I'm happy to admit.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Maybe ghosts are what dark matter is made out of.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Maybe the gravity ghosts are subjected to is in relation to the location they died and not the mass of earth.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Relative to what? That makes no sense.

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