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[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Also a lot of them were shot in Italy, with Italian extras.

Fun fact: Sergio Leone would shoot his movies after the score had been composed.

He would shoot scenes with the soundtrack for the scene playing over loudspeakers.

Then, the dialogue and other sounds would be dubbed in.

This was how such perfect synchronization with the soundtrack was achieved.

EDIT 2: fun fact 2,

My favorite quote of Sergio Leone

When I was young, I believed in three things: Marxism, the redemptive power of cinema, and dynamite. Now I just believe in dynamite.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Weren't most actually shot in southern Spain? That's vast desert country, lots of different spectacular backgrounds that don't repeat in different scenes and even different movies.

Even Stanley Kubrick went there in the late 50s, to shoot epic battle sequences for Spartacus that would have been way beyond the film's budget if he had filmed in California.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Almeria in southern Spain still has a tourist attraction cowboy town in a desert like region that looks like the American midwest. I've been near there several times, told about it, read the brochure but never got a chance to visit it.

Look up the filming locations for 'The Good, The Bad, The Ugly' ... it was filmed all over Spain

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060196/locations/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I'm actually going to that region next week. Might try to squeeze in a visit. Thanks for the tip!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

For those who are even more curious, Carlo Verdone (who was a friend of Leone) made some documentaries called "Verdone racconta Leone" (see for example this yt video). These documentaries are packed with anecdotes (Verdone told lots of stories in other occasions too!) and fun stories.

One of my favorite is how Leone convinced Clint Eastwood to use the cigar, which is probably now an unforgettable part of the way we remember Eastwood's character.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was informed that Japanese people often referred to these as "Macaroni Westerns" which I think is even even better as it effectively also implies that they are cheaply made

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I don't see how macaroni implies being cheaply made and spaghetti doesn't. Both are just pasta.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Macaroni generally has an association with cheap Mac & Cheese box meals. I do agree that, on a broader scale, they are both pasta and not really functionally much different.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

Is that only an American association or does it hold in Japan as well?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

I'd think the association is more towards Macaroni art, the sort that little kids do with glue and dry pasta.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

A very American association. Here in Germany for example, macaroni are among the more premium pasta variants (not expensive but not the cheapest around). The cheap (and most common) noodles are actually usually spaghetti, fusilli and penne. Mac n cheese box meals are not really a thing here.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I like spaghetti westerns I like the way the boots are all reverbed out walking across the hardwood floor In fact, everything's got that big reverb sound

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So whatta I do now? Go to sleep? Pull the pud?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If I remember correctly it was supposed to be a little bit of an insult.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Hardly. Sergio Leone reinvigorated the Western genre. Compare A Fistful of Dollars by Sergio Leone to The Quick Gun or Bullet for a Bad Man both by R.G. Springsteen and released the same year. There is simply no comparison in terms of style or pacing. Wife wants to go to dinner so I might add some later.

Edited for spelling.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Kinda surprised you just ran into this, but only because I'm so damn old that I grew up watching this kind of thing on broadcast TV lol

Also, if you haven't, check out Eastwood in rawhide, back when he was a practical infant

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

All the music you associate with westerns came from the same composer. A friend played me an album of his music and all the now-tropey hits were there. I don't remember the composer's name, but it shouldn't be difficult to find. Just blew my mind that it was all one person.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Lets also not forget Morricone's friend and collaborator Bruno Nicolai.

He was every bit as influential to the spaghetti western and Italian movie scene.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Music buff, take a bow.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

How about that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Worked with a dude who once talked fondly of the spaghetti westerns of his youth among a group of colleagues. He beamed, "You know why they were called 'spaghetti westerns'? Because they were sponsored by Ragu spaghetti sauce!"

One of the others in the group gently explained it was because they were made in Italy and that there were racist undertones in that name. All the color drained from his face and he got quiet for quite a while. I felt bad that we had witnessed the death of the joy he had in that memory. I hope he managed to recover eventually.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Spaghetti westerns are the best!

It's really interesting how early films like A Fistful of Dollars took inspiration from Japanese cinema but in return they had a great influence on Japanese culture and media going forward.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Check out the original Django movie, which kicked off the genre. For a while it was free on YouTube

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm pretty sure Krystof Walters only spoke Italian during that film.

Edit: Sorry, I just remembered...he only spoke in Italian during the film Akira: Kurosawa Angel.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Yay wholesome racism

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

My favorite takeaway from the last time I heard this was the assertation that if the same naming convention was transferred over to other genres and mediums, western comics like DC and Marvel would be Hamburger Shounens.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The proper name is Italian Westerns