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submitted 1 month ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

Boots need shining, and Dessalines is positively salivating at the thought

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[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

This sounds like a unjustified callout and a bit of an ad hominem. He doesn't argue against tools for dissent, but specifically against Signal and recommends matrix. link to post

Any communication tool that requires you to personally identify yourself through a phone number and is hosted centrally in the US is not good for dissidents.

[-] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago

He doesn’t argue against tools for dissent,

He says it's a 'smart move' for the totalitarian countries he simps for to ban signal. It's not just a question of preference.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

No. He's a well known Tankie and has a Castro profile picture. So crying about privacy while rooting for autocrats is absolutely laughable.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Are you suggesting that the US would compel signal to turn data about Venezuelan dissidents over to Maduro?

I mean, there's maybe a conversation to be had about the wisdom of using Signal in particular, but I really struggle to imagine a justification for banning it anywhere near that conversation. Furthermore, we all know Dessalines is a redfash bootlicker. His intent here is very clearly more cheerleading for said boot

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I agree the callout is unjustified, but there is still something to be said when those countries ban Signal but aren't banning WhatsApp.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Shoutput to simplex as another option

Not fully decentralized but you can host your own servers or use whichever ones you want

https://simplex.chat

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Signal was already made to hand over all the data they stored for one account at least in the US, here is a video describing how that went: https://youtu.be/3oPeIbpA5x8

[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

Tell me though, which company will not hand over what data they have when asked by their country's judiciary?

The question here is how much data they keep. Strict legal minimum or more.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You obviously didn't watch the video, the point made is not that there is information being handed over (every company has to comply with legal orders), but that Singal handed over nothing except 2 timestamps shared as integers.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Congrats if you can stand more than a minute of this 4chan-esque garbage but I'm not gonna sit through 10 minutes of it while they stretch out getting to the actual point. If you want to bring forth an argument, don't start with "watch this random ass YouTube video" where I have to sit through some garbage and have to then fact check every potential point made.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Here's what the video is based on: https://signal.org/bigbrother/cd-california-grand-jury/

I get not watching the video, I didn't, but why reply then? It's obvious you would be off the mark. Also, sometimes the description is enough to get what a video is about, here it was.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

You are correct though, I did indeed not watch it. Hence I misunderstood the comment I was answering to as being negative towards Signal. Thanks for the added context.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

While this is true it's still good to add nuance.

There is a difference between judiciary and intelligence context in these kind of things, if you use a tool in a judiciary context you burn it (as with the FBI malware on Playpen). So it's probably better to keep it low, even avoid to use some of the information gathered, so you keep the intelligence source.

I'm not saying that's what's going on, just that this is not an absolute proof.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Yeah, better use Telegram /s

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

He continues by saying use matrix

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Banning signal is like saying im about to commit some serious crimes against humanity. Typical tankie shit lords like that however.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

That's a way to know it's banned. Zero local coverage, but yes, it doesn't work without tricks as I've tested. That's said, it's a nice proof it's is\was relatively safe to use and popular in said countries and the likes.

Dess may seem smug for promoting mtx over Signal, but it's one less channel for communication, and they'd try to come for mtx next.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Wasn't it protect-your-privacy-Snowden who pushed for signal a few years ago?

[-] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago

I don't understand. Weren't most lemmy users cheering when tiktok thing happened? How is this any different?

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago
  1. No, most Lemmy users were not cheering for the Tiktok ban.

  2. Signal is not owned in large part (namely, a golden share) by the Chinese government, and the proposed Tiktok ban only goes into effect if they don't divest within a year.

  3. It wasn't done just after a political crisis in an attempt to silence dissent. Hell, it's not even in effect yet.

  4. The US is far from the only country to have taken such steps, as the espionage risks of a ubiquitous app that an enemy government has unlimited and legal access to is not great. Numerous other countries have been restricting Tiktok until a change in their data sharing policies is effected, because of how wide open it is right now.

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