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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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[–] [email protected] 217 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 76 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If good cops existed, they would shoot these guys.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

The second you say a person's life has limited value, your life becomes limited in value.

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[–] [email protected] 177 points 2 months ago (18 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (25 children)

I know several cops and they are all great people. I live in Europe though, and hating all cops isn't luckily considered normal here.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 months ago

You're just being foolish to trust them.. I'm Canadian and always heard how our cops weren't as bad as American cops, then we had protests in my city and the Canadian police proved they can be every bit as sadistic and psychotic as American cops. So can European cops. Don't let your guards down

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 months ago

I know several ex-cops because they saw everyone around them was a bastard, they are great people.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I live in Canada and also know several cops who are great people;however, even they would not raise a finger to expose fellow cops who are indeed bastards

That's the problem, it's not a few bad apples, it's a shit ton of them and the few remaining good apples are too afraid or just not care to do anything about the rest

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

The whole point of "a few bad apples" is that they spoil the bunch. The idiom is "A few bad apples spoils the bunch". Just like keeping bad apples in a basket with good ones ruins them, so too are your "great people" ruined by putting up with the assholes they work with.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

It probably helps that in most European countries police training is in the thousands of hours and in America it's under 6 months.

https://www.trainingreform.org/not-enough-training

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Here in Vic Australia too. They're mostly legends

The only people I know who hate cops here hate them because they either didn't solve their issue, or they are generally known to act like asses.

It probably also helps that nobody carries guns here so they can operate on a shoot last, ask questions first policy

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Believe it or not, it's possible to act on a shoot last, ask questions first policy even here in gun crazy Florida. Literally everyone other than police officers do it every day.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 2 months ago (16 children)

People like this deserve one thing only, but saying what they deserve will get you banned from some instances.

I've got a friend who, thanks to close family of hers being a cop, is still unconvinced of cops status as bastards.

It's getting more and more frustrating listening to her justify why other cops don't do anything about these kinds of cops. Still can't accept the ones that do nothing are just as culpable. Accessories, in many cases.

If I stand next to my buddy as he kicks a guy to death, I will be getting jail time too. Why not cops?

This piece of shit deserved prison when he killed someone. His actions after the fact show he has no regard for human life and as such is a danger to others by simply being alive.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 months ago

Give them a mile and they still reach for that last extra inch.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 months ago

Nah, A-Train at least felt some remorse and ended up having a breakdown.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 months ago (3 children)

how does a cop not have a license? huh?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

Laws for thee but not for me.

OR

Laws for you, not for steaming piles of poo

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Manslaughter. But yeah, fuck this guy.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The driver's license thing is misleading - he had an Arizona license, so "didn't have a Washington license", but was still legal to drive.

The department is legally not able to issue any discipline until the investigation concludes, and they are not able to conclude the investigation while the appeals process on the fine plays out. Due process is slow. Hopefully in the end he gets everything coming to him.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Isn't the issue that he was living and working in Washington but still had an Arizona license? Most states require you to get that changed over within 6-12 months of moving there.

He definitely wasn't commuting...

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You are required to obtain a new driver's license within 30 days of moving to Washington.

https://dol.wa.gov/moving-washington

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I feel like this is a very naive process that implies due process works, albeit slowly, even for cops who fuck up. It doesn't work because cops, DAs and judges all protect each other.

Also, most insurance companies will nail you for misrepresentation or fraud if your driver's license license address isn't updating accordingly with your current address, because different areas have different likelihoods for accidents.

I just don't get why people are so quick to defend cops or give them the benefit of the doubt over stuff like this.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago

AND their consent decree just ended! But remeber, the CHAZ was liberals trying to overthrow the government. Or something.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

is it bad that the worst thing in this entire situation is the fact that he somehow didnt have a drivers license while on the force?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I believe the worst thing is that he killed someone, but that's just like my opinion, man.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

That and, you know, the dead 23 year old.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (3 children)

No, entirely believable. This is what being a cop is all about. You get to do whatever you want and murder whoever you want.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

That's just not true. Cops are not allowed to kill important people, like family of important politicians or rich people. There are limits on their power.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

Dude reminds me of A-Train

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I will NEVER condone vigilantism or street justice, because its a slippery slope into chaos as people start taking matter into their own hands, possibly harming innocent people just on suspicion of guilt

Unrelated:

heres his full name, birth year, badge number, every unit he's been in, his date of hire, every write up hes had since 2011, and his current salary

https://openoversight.tech-bloc-sea.dev/officers/354

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

For justice, we must go to Don Corleone.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

meanwhile in other countries:

https://qcostarica.com/4-police-officers-may-be-fired-or-sent-to-jail-for-running-over-and-killing-dog/

"could lead to their dismissal, assured Zamora, and possible prison time"

and:

"following a complaint from the Police itself, the agents were detained"

my citing is a bit misleading, and you have to read it completely yourself, but overall it looks very different there.

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