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Could anyone help me. I have a silly problem with wayland, using Firefox (tar.gz or snap are same, tried both, welp ubuntu option only has it, my fedora on Xorg using XFCE). When searching using bing.com, it likes to freeze. I only know from the ram usage, it suddenly surge till the OS can't put any memory or lack of RAM. I never encounter this in WIndows either nightly, beta, stable or on Fedora Xfce Xorg. I only see this problem in wayland.

My Firefox version is 117 on Linux both wayland or xorg and 119 for windows 10

I put the profiller on the link, I hope someone can point me, why this happen, and how to can overcome it. Thanks!

*probably if any Firefox dev, welcome. Thank you

ping @[email protected] @[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are you using Firefox in Wayland mode? It defaults to XWayland by default and it caused issues with my system

Arch wiki link

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is the direct link to the section.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, I check using about:support

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I know you probably don't wanna hear it, but just use one of the Bing wrappers like DuckDuckGo. There is no reason to use Bing in 2023 anyways.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

my favorite bing wrapper is ecosia, they say they plant trees and I trust them just a little more than ddg in terms of privacy

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there any particual reason why ddg is less trustworthy for you or its just matter of preference ?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They were caught selling data to Microsoft, which is a pretty stark contrast from their initial mission of being the anti-Google that respected your privacy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

yeah this is pretty much why I don't trust ddg as much. at the same time, I really haven't investigated ecosia that thoroughly, so it's possible they could be just as bad but afaik they at least haven't been in any controversies like that, so that's good enough for me right now

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

there are specific response on bing that's useful (stackoverflow), that isn't available like ddg, and ddg 30% miss (for my case), I tried to change the query, but it takes time, 5-6 times, then I will able to hit.

I do know bang, but it's not my style. I been using bing for years, (also duckduckgo before that), and In my opinion the new bing after march 2023, have better answer than ddg, and most time in my case even beat google for now after building up my search query.

That's why It's hard to stay away from bing for now. Yes it's like having bing replacing google, but I need it for work sadly.