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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah it's correct, but if I may offer an alternate plan:

Simply don't watch Eva.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Eva is fantastic now that the rebuilds actually have a somewhat uplifting ending that gives perfect closure. I detested Eva for many years but my mind was changed by the rebuilds

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'll watch Eva instead of going to therapy and you can't stop me!! (Neither can my doctor)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

This is very accurate to the people I've met that love Eva and even myself when I loved it lmao

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I've wanted to try Evangelion but I have no idea what's the right way to watch it 😂

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just watch it through, or the way like from that pic. End of Evangelion is an alternate version of episodes 25 and 26, and the rebuild movies are meant to be watched afterwards

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not necessarily an alternate version. The End movies shows >!what's happening outside of Shinji's psyche.!<

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

In the original episodes, Shinji accepts the instrumentality project. In EoE he rejects it. Very significant difference

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

It doesn't matter what order you watch it your first time around, you're not going to understand what the fuck is going on unless you watch a five hour video essay anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Evangelion is an experience. As others have said, I wouldn't even bother trying to find the best way to consume it, just watch, and revisit once you get over the initial "wtf was that" feeling.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
  • Original series (all 26 episodes)
  • End of Evangelion (optional, but recommended. This happens chronologically at the same time as Ep 25 and 26)
  • Everything else (optional, not recommended)

The OG series is the story Anno wanted to show. Some fans wanted a more concrete ending, so Anno gave them a concrete ending in EoE. Then some fans wanted a happy ending where Shinji gets the girl so Anno said fuck it, sold out, and made a series with a happy ending where Shinji gets a girl. But now some fans want a happy ending where Shinji gets the right girl so Anno gave up on them as lost causes and went and directed Shin Godzilla.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I disagree. There's a YouTube video essay series that breaks down the timelines and I really like their interpretation. Each Eva is the story Anno wanted to tell at each point in his life, as he grew and became a healthier person. Anno wanted the darkness when he was younger. Anno wanted the hope as he got older. I've watched all the Evas and I think I actually like the rebuilds more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Each Eva is the story Anno wanted to tell at each point in his life, as he grew and became a healthier person.

Sounds like something someone who sold out would say! (/s)

Anno wanted the darkness when he was younger

I still like the OG ending. I think the 'darkness' of EoE was partially a reaction to the death threats he got, and the Rebuilds feel unnecessarily convoluted (but the animation was great). Anyway, to each their own.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

DO NOT ASK ABOUT HOW TO WATCH FATE/MONOGATARI

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Fate is pretty easy nowadays. Just start with literally any series made after 2011. They're all self contained stories that explain the premise within the first few episodes.

We're a long way from the old days where you had to read the VN if you wanted to have any idea about what was going on in the UBW movie.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Literally just watch Monogatari in release order. It's out of chronological order on purpose

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I had a watch guide scare me off of Fate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just start with Zero. It's a prequel that lays out the narrative devices of the series while being a pretty neat story in itself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But after watching Zero anything else from Fate is just weird.

Like adults murdering each other with magic and famous people makes some sort of sense. Kids doing that is just... stupid. I tried the Stay/Night, UBW many times, and it just doesn't hit anywhere near as well as the Zero did.

I'm just going to pleasure myself with this fish.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

To be fair, the Holy Grail War in Zero is the last one that was kind of played by the rules, and it never properly concludes.

The events of the main routes all depict the fallout of the Holy Grail War going to complete shit, as it starts back up off-schedule.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

With American comics, it's not even the shattered continuity, it's that availability is a mess because some of the franchises are so ancient and collectible.

If I want to read through One Piece from the 1997 start, my library probably has/can inter-library loan all 105 volumes, or I can go to mainstream retailers and get any I'm missing without a huge fracas.

If I want to read Batman from the 1940 start, I'd better hope some of the rarer issues come up at auction in the near future AND that I can mortgage my house to afford them.

I'm amazed they never put out a DVD-ROM collection that's "Everything Marvel/DC did prior to, say, 1990, as PDF scans" just so mere mortals have a chance to enjoy the experience of completionism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I was surprised about that figure of 105 volumes for one piece, so I googled it and it was 109 (probably just what came out since you last heard about it). I was expecting that number to be like a thousand or something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

A little over a thousand chapters, but a volume has about ten chapters.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

TV series: You have to skip the first season, it's a slow start and kinda shit. Go back to it later, except for S01E07 and 08, those are necessary to understand the story arc.
In S02, watch E03,04,05,08,11 and 02 in that order. Still drags on but there are some memorable moments. S03 is great. Except for the ending, skip that. And it all goes downhill starting in S04.
But if you stick with it, S07 is bearable again.

Best series of all time!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Honestly, if I'm told that I need to watch something in a weird order in order to enjoy it, I just drop it from my watchlist. There's plenty of good media to watch, I'm not gonna do that stupid shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

When does game of thrones get good? Season 8?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

The walking deads first season is great! Not the rest though

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I had to get a watch guide for Supernatural. It had some great episodes and a lot of duds. I still never finished it, stopping on season 7.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Pretty sure i forget seasons 01 - 04 until i'm in 07.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Does anyone really watch a tv show like that?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Not this extreme, but Always Sunny I couldn't get past the second episode. Gave up on it until someone told me that I can just completely ignore the first season and start on season two. Actually got into the show like that, never gone back to try and watch the parts I missed

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Oh, but the power of American superhero comics is that you can just start reading them wherever. Sure, there is deeper lore, but you're not required to know all that. There's this bat-dude, see? He punches crooks and does awesome shit in the night. There's also a bunch of wacky villains. See? Just go read it, you'll pick up the rest of the details as you go along!

And I also love a lot of European comics because most often they have a pretty good balance between complex writing and manageable size. And publishers here tend to be more lenient toward artists making one-shot kind of comics, without any expectations that it'll become the next endless blockbuster cash-cow property.

Still, I do like how most of the manga series are like "OK, here's the beginning, here's 20 or whatever volumes, here's the end."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

And that's why Comics < Manga

and I say that as someone who reads more Comics than she does Mangas (Not really fond of anime aside from specific examples)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I love batman and tried to get into comics many times. But every time I'd ask where to start it wouid be paragraphs of text exposing were I "could start" multiple reboots, side world's, multi verse who else knows what. So I just give up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. I tried getting into comics once and got a multi-gigabyte archive of deadpool stuff.

...couldn't make heads or tails of it.

Actually couldn't get into IDW sonic/transformers for the same reason. WHERE DO I START!?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm surprised you had this problem with IDW Sonic as it's an incredibly easy book to follow. If you were confused by the beginning then know that the whole book takes place after Sonic Forces, but before Frontiers in the game timeline. Unlike Archie Sonic which is its own continuity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well, it was a spur-of-the-moment sort of thing when I went and looked at their site and it just had a bunch of names with no numbers there under the book art.

Went and checked now and site looks entirely different, and I can clearly see the issue numbers. I don't know, maybe I hallucinated it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Annoyingly enough a lot of books are trying to make the issue numbers harder to spot thinking that if readers aren't intimidated by the issue number they'll pick it up.....

Maybe if they just stop doing reboots every three seconds instead?

And since each issue has "Variant Covers" now you can be tricked into buying the same book twice if you don't notice those numbers

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

do comics have as much filler as manga? because most manga and anime I've seen (which isn't too much admittedly) has been full of irrelevant shit just to pad things out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Not really, since there's such a limited page amount, the only comics with "filler" either are because the editor kept mandating arcs that sell too well be stretched out as much as possible (Marvel infamously did this with Spider-Man's clone saga to the irritation of EVERYONE!), or because it's something like Early Archie Sonic where the stories are intended to be episodically self-contained to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Star Trek '09 and Into Darkness are both better movies if you read their supplementary comics. This is, I think, already on bad ground. Each work should be able to stand on its own to some degree. Pushing supplementary stuff like this to bring the story together is a cynical cash grab.

Season 1 of Picard then directly contradicts the comic to '09. Specifically, Data was fully revived inside B4 in the comic, while Picard showed that B4 could never handle the complexity of Data's programming (which, admittedly, is the more likely outcome). Not only that, but Alex Kurtzman was one of the writers of the comic was also on the writing team of Picard. Erasing that plot point was a deliberate choice.

Where does that leave us with those comics?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Jujutsu kaisen has entered the chat.

(But only if you are some random website who thinks the original release timeline isn't "the correct way")

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Make sure you watch the corrected DVD order because Fox thought more action would be better and put the 2nd episode first, the first episode 11th and totally fucked any hope for a second season...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Let me introduce you to The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The manga? Start with chapter one. The light novel? Start with chapter one. Only the anime made it needlessly confusing.