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[–] [email protected] 84 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Reality means nothing to conservatives or they wouldn't be conservatives.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

I heard a guy with a theory that it's all kayfabe and it makes so much sense. They know it's a lie and they believe it because it's more satisfying than reality.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's such a flagrant lie, too. I mean, it's not like it's in the realm of close, of that it depends on how you interpret the data - there are way more on the right, period.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

No, see, they are wholesome Christians who worship guns and fear mongering. They love phrases like fuck around and find out, don't tread on me (or else), and something along the lines of this house is protected by Smith and Wesson. But Lincoln was a Republican killed by Democrats, so they are evil murderers. Please ignore that in today's politics he would have been a far left woke Democrat killed by a Republican....

[–] [email protected] 55 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago

His lips are moving.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Abortions are political violence according to the right.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

They would probably agree with you on that one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

And murdering abortion providers are actual murders

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

Right-wing extremists were just as likely to commit violent acts as those motivated by Islamic extremism, the researchers found. Left-wing extremists were a distant third.

Word.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If the Left perpetrated violence the way the Right says we do, we'd have executed most of their leaders by now.

I'm anti-violence, fwiw. It's one of the reasons I believe we're gonna lose in the longterm. We have fucking morality and ethics to contend with and they just lie and cheat openly and shamelessly.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

I can't find anything in the article that suggests a reporter called out his lies to his face.

We need some real journalists covering these ghouls, not stenographers.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

The people listening to him don't give two shits about the truth.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Uh, January 6th? I'm pretty sure the sum total of political violence on that day swamps everything else for years.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

This is the “bloodless revolution” psycho.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Right-wing extremists were just as likely to commit violent acts as those motivated by Islamic extremism, the researchers found. Left-wing extremists were a distant third.

I can't speak for every leftist, but I don't think anything can really be accomplished through individual, random acts of violence. Then again, I don't really think very much of anything can be accomplished through any means, really. I've come to see hope as futile and change as impossible. But, I do think acts of violence are especially futile. Plus, I don't really want to hurt anyone, even people I don't like very much.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Several things can be accomplished: instilling fear, forcing disproportionate responses, provide thinly veiled excuses for... well, almost anything.

It's just that there's nothing positive that can be accomplished that way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Lasting change only comes with compassion and understanding. Violence does not create either of those.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

There should be consequences to blatant lies from the media and our politicians.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

There are, already; their preferred candidates usually get a bump in polling. Why let the truth stand in the way of that?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I fuckin wish

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I want to change the world. (you have to kill people) I want to affect the world. (you have to kill people) I want to make the world a better place...(you have to kill people) GIVE ME MONEY TO KILL PEOPLE!

The progression here...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

How much does a kitchen knife cost? $10?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but that's not going to change the minds of the people he was talking to.

As usual, the lie gets halfway around the world, before the truth has got its boots on.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago

Facts

1: Young people are predominantly left-leaning

2: Instances of criminal violence decline with age

3: Police/Military can't commit criminal violence, because they are our friends. So nothing they do counts.

Conclusion

The majority of violence must be committed by The Left. I'm sorry, but facts don't care about your feelings.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


THE FACTS: Roberts’ remarks came in response to questions about comments earlier this month in which he said the country was in the midst of “the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.”

Increasingly, he said, many of those responsible for political violence espouse “muddled ideologies” combining a rejection of authority with conservative views, for instance, or supposed anarchists who say they support a strong central government.

Questions about political violence and its place in American democracy are getting renewed attention following Saturday’s attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump, a Republican.

Democratic U.S. Rep. Gabby Giffords, who was gravely wounded in a 2011 shooting outside an Arizona grocery store, had been threatened and windows of her congressional offices in Tucson knocked out after she voted in favor of President Barack Obama’s healthcare reform.

Last year, a man with a history of mental illness went to the Fairfax, Virginia, district office of Democratic U.S. Rep. Gerry Connolly, looking to kill him with a baseball bat.

People typically overstate the violent intentions of those with different ideologies, too, Westwood said, with one party believing the other is far more willing to commit violence to further their political agenda.


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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So I have very, very long copy-pastas I made from my reddit days detailing that this is pure and utter bullshit. Not just in recent history, but throughout our history. There was a momentary blip where leftist eco terrorism spiked but it was nothing comparable in terms of the homicidal violence of the right at any point in our history.

For every left-wing act of serious violence, I can name 3 or more from the right.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

there are wikipedia articles about both of these topics:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_terrorism

and, of course,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_violence

edit:

this is only one metric, but i think it's notable that there are about 80 references on the left wing page and approximately 3.5 times that many on the right wing page.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's just the notorious Wikipedia Far-Left bias.

Like, consider the Comet Pingpong Shooting. You counted that as an act of right wing violence. But what about all the cases of adrenochrome harvesting that happened in the basement? Why aren't Hilary Clinton and John Podesta on this list?

Hell, not a single victim of the Hilary Clinton Death List is anywhere in these articles. Why aren't we counting the brutal murder of Jeffrey Epstein as an act of Left Wing Violence, eh?

Pretty suspicious if you ask me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you want to be a crazy conspiracy person like you are acting at least believe in the conspiracy that epsteins kiddy partners (like trump) were the ones who ordered the hit on him.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago

Trump was a white hat pedophile.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I want the left to have the hit the most fascists with milkshakes award.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago

People even slightly left of center and minorities should exercise their constitutional right to bear arms. When the proverbial hits the fan, milkshakes while delicious won’t cut it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago

Common misconception. He was actually saying most political violence is committed by people politically to his left, which I think is undoubtedly true.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago

Specially when the left is virtually nonexistent