this post was submitted on 18 Jul 2024
156 points (98.1% liked)

Privacy

32456 readers
558 users here now

A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.

Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.

Some Rules

Related communities

much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

I switched over since I heard it was more privacy friendly than YouTube and have been using the platform for a while without issues, but this cookie banner just popped up. You can opt-out of things like "Access precise geolocation data" but a lot of other information is still shared by third parties and not opt-outable.

It seems "Reject All" is the correct choice here, but I'm not sure if it is the best choice for browser users who have to constantly log back into their accounts.

all 29 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 152 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Please be aware, Odysee was recently purchased by a Crypto company that also acquired an NFT company.

For more info, see my comment here: https://slrpnk.net/comment/9749921

I would not recommend investing any time or money into the platform, as it will inevitably crash and burn as the owners walk away flush with cash while everyone else is left holding the bag.

Peertube is not ideal, but it is currently the only alternative that isn't tied to a shady crypto scheme.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago

Got it, thank you.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Why does Odysee have 836 advertising partners?

Because it's not a privacy-respecting company? I mean, isn't precise location access a red flag already?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Are there any alternatives I should consider? PeerTube seems really empty so I'm not sure what I should switch over to.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (2 children)

There are no other big platforms. There was a very extensive discussion about it recently. Making a service like YouTube is extremely expensive and not even very profitable. YouTube exists because Google has the resources to maintain it and it's too important for everyone to shut it down.

You can either use YouTube with a ton of privacy hardening (using a private browser or a VPN) or host videos on your own website.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It seems like I will start using a YouTube frontend. It's really sad that Google doesn't have any competitors in this area.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Wait I thought you wanted to make videos. If not then there are various YouTube frontends with various levels of privacy. I use Piped/LibreTube but it's probably the least convenient one out there. You can just use a VPN tbh.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

YouTube was Google's competitor, or rather the other way around. Then Google bought them. I can imagine they'd do that to others if they could.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

If u simply want a better yt frontend then there is tubular wich is a sponsor block fork of newpipe with some extras. Then on desktop u can use any of the various nvidious frontends.

I use tubular cos it works with peertube so ive started to replace the few yters that do publish for it with the peertube version and uts all part of thr same feed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

PeerTube seems really empty

PeerTube is not great but it's not empty either. You just have to find an instance that federates with lots of other instances. Due to file size and bandwidth required, this is one thing that most people self-host, so it's very fragmented.

I created my own and just set it to auto-follow other instances.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

yt-dlp and jellyfin

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Be careful... Don't just click "Reject All." There's a category called "Legitimate Interest" that will still be enabled.

It was meant to be a way for websites to collect relevant data for adjusting content to your interests, but it's been so loosely defined in legal requirements that literally any advertiser could pull your personal data through that category and use it however they want. This legal loophole is how websites continue to collect data and build profiles on you without violating the law. And clicking "Reject All" won't disable anything in that category.

As much as it sucks, you still need to review all categories and manually change your advertising settings, then click "save preferences" (or however it's specifically worded) instead of just clicking "Reject All."

[–] [email protected] 52 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Shout out to that time I manually unchecked 100+ legitimate interests only to then hit "Accept All" instead of save 💀

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Advertiser's love this one trick, i am surprised no one has yet created some JS to swap the buttons around on_click

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Or just skip it entirely, I use the Consent-O-Matic extension which has a surprising amount of features.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Making the internet usable again. Without this and ublock, I might quit the whole thing.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

Working as intended.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Gotta love dark patterns. Or when you’re about to click reject all, but then a page element conveniently loads in and makes you click accept.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago

Avoid Obysee if you aren't into Holocaust denial or hate speech

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

They tried to make it with "respecting privacy" and all that shit that they never really cared about ~~yo~~ to begin with and was just bullshit to try to get people to switch over. Now, they're going the other route where they're just another data mining platform like YouTube. Use Tubular. It's a frontend for YouTube without the bullshit. You just can't sign in and comment. Or you can use GrayJay. It connects to several platforms at once, like YouTube, rumble, Odessy....etc

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

LBRY also uses a crypto back end, and LBRY coin (their crypto) is what odysee used before being bought out by Arweave. I wouldn't recommend either, personally.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Odysee uses LBRY as a backend to deliver videos. Librarian, meanwhile, is a privacy-respecting frontend for LBRY; like Invidious.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Thanks, YouTube frontends aren't really working well for me right now so this will do great.