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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

I guess they're just going to end up being really good but heavily overpriced like the rest of the FormLabs products.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Founded in 2021, Micronics is the product of recent University of Wisconsin grads who threw themselves into the problem of democratizing access to industrial printing tech.

unless they go open source, to me this aquisition is a similar but worse situation than IBM and Redhat

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Selling out this quick to a company obviously trying to reduce competition, feels like they weren't all that committed to the cause.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

feels like they weren't all that committed to the cause.

They were in a very tough position, their printer was having major quality control issues, I think they probably needed money.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

A lot of people (probably) would have chipped in and be happy with a half-backed first-generation product. People loved the Ender 3 and even accepted the Anet A8 which would catch fire if not modified because it was all they could afford/buy.

Look no further than Micronics sift bin. It was jankey but it was what it took to hit this price point and people accepted it.

All of the buzz was about SLS being finally headed toward enthusiasts and small businesses. Adoption/market size getting bigger and suddenly good SLS is affordable in the near future. All of this was killed with this acquisition as FormLabs is the wrong company for this trajectory. Even the fact that FormLabs is asking $4k for the * privilege * to use third-party materials is a strong indicator.

Do we expect anytime soon that FormLabs will beat what is already out there? Sinterit Lisa: $10k: https://sinterit.com/3dprinters/lisa/

My money is on that the next/first budget SLS will be made and engineered in China. I don't know who will be next but it likely won't be another startup in the west.

The whole ecosystem here in the West doesn't favour starting up. It's not easy to do it in China either, but the whole supply chain is there (as such also the knowledge/support) and the business environment makes it more likely for it to happen there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I have an Ender 3, it works much better than this printer. Watch Strange Parts on YouTube, he was sent a review printer and couldn't get it to print despite being on call with the inventor/CEO himself for hours to debug it. Also, Ender 3 had a fire risk with the bed power/PSU connector too.

From the CEOs perspective, doing this he can at least get the Kickstarter backers their money back since they likely couldn't get the printer to a good state given all the issues.

The whole ecosystem here in the West doesn't favour starting up. It's not easy to do it in China either, but the whole supply chain is there (as such also the knowledge/support) and the business environment makes it more likely for it to happen there.

Agreed, and don't forget how important it is how much cheaper skilled labor is in China.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

SLS4All has an entire machine kit for $7,000

https://sls4all.com/store/inova-mk1-parts-set-del-oct24/

It’s no $4,000. But it’s open source, so a potential candidate for Chinese derivatives and a race to the bottom like we saw with the Ender3.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Every man has his price at which he'll abandon any cause. Running a business is hard -- It's a big gamble and full of costs and expenses, you have to warranty the crap you make, source parts, fight with vendors, the whole lot. It's a pain in the ass. But taking a big cash payout is easy.

I'll bet these guys had student loans. And I'll bet you they don't anymore.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

Disappointing, was looking forward to affordable SLS. Formlabs is just snatching them up because they hate competition.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Great way to stifle competition and keep prices inflated. I'm sure Formlabs' investors are chuffed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Watch the Strange Parts videos, I wouldn't be too confident about that

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Definitely makes me nervous - not a huge FL fan. But I also see how they make sense as a team.