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[-] [email protected] 68 points 2 months ago

"All models are wrong, but some are useful." -George Box

[-] [email protected] 58 points 2 months ago

"Well... You see... When its a particle it spins. When its a wave its still doing that. How does a waveform spin you ask? Listen. Shut the fuck up. The math is really weird and some of this stuff just happens and you can't visualize it in your head. We didn't believe it at first either but after 50 years of experiments we have to just accept that reality is consistent with the math even if we don't fully conceptualize what that means even"

[-] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

We are all just folds in this wonderfully weird thing we call spacetime!

[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Nice reference to PBS Space Time. The YouTube channel where I just get bullied with science, and for some weird twisted reason I like it.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

pbs space time is awesome, and this description is even more so.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Bullied with science sounds like a fun band name

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

The prions of spacetime.

Out here folding along.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago
  • When it's* a particle
  • When it's* a wave
  • it's* still doing that
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[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

You seem to be up to date with this stuff; did we find out whether there's more than one yet..?

Personally don't like the idea of everyone reusing the same electon for everything... seems quite unhygienic. I'd rather we had at least one per person, maybe share it with people we trust, if we must...

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

We have to recycle nowadays. Besides we can't have people throwing away perfectly good electrons. They could end up anywhere.

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[-] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago

I swear quantum physics is magic and made up!

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Magnets, how do they work?

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[-] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago

Also please don't look at it

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

I mean, you can but it won’t be there.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

Actually, it can be there, but then you won't know how fast it's moving.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

think of it as a camera.

if you set it up with a high speed to take a picure of a bouncing ping pong ball you will know its precise location at the moment of the shot.

if you set it up with a low speed you will see a blur of the path it took, but not a precise location.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

That's not a good analogy because typically cameras don't change the things they're observing. But, a camera with a flash...

Imagine a guy driving down a dark road at night. Take a picture of him without a flash and you'll get a blurry picture.

Take a picture of him with a powerful flash and you'll get an idea of exactly where he was when the picture was taken, but the powerful flash will affect his driving and he'll veer off the road.

You can't measure something without interacting with it. This is true even in the non-quantum world, but often the interactions are small enough to ignore. Like, if you stick a meat thermometer into a leg of lamb, you'll measure its temperature. But, the relatively cool thermometer is going to slightly reduce the temperature of the lamb.

At a quantum level, you can no longer ignore the effect that measuring has on observing. The twin-slit experiment is the ultimate proof of this weirdness.

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[-] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Google "Electron Orbitals". All the spaces there are all the ~~possible~~ highest likely locations for the electrons. Good Introduction to some Quantum Mechanics 👍

[-] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No! I will not relive the horrors of that chemistry class again... you can't make me. I am happily an aerospace engineer now where I don't need this chemistry nonsense, or quantum mechanics.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Ah let's see, of the top of my head...

~~1s² 2s² 2d⁶ 3s² 2p¹⁰ ...~~

Edited (iirc now, the d block is in the middle with the transition metals, p block with metallics, Halogens, Noble Gases...):

1s² 2s² 2p⁶ 3s² 2d¹⁰ ...

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

This I was fine with. But that fake make believe redox math? Like are all chemist bad at actual math, so they just came up with their own fake version?

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Except they only look like that if there is an external reference system imposing some structure on the atom! Otherwise all orbitals are basically spherical because they can all just be in a superposition of all possible orbitals and we couldn't tell a difference...

And then suddenly you have two atoms meeting and need to explain why 1+1=0 for their molecular orbits -.-

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I don't think so. Orbitals give you the spaces of highest probability! Electrons could be outside as well. And since it is based on probability it is definitely a useful model.

Electronic orbitals are regions within the atom in which electrons have the highest probability of being found.

https://chem.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Physical_and_Theoretical_Chemistry_Textbook_Maps/Supplemental_Modules_(Physical_and_Theoretical_Chemistry)/Quantum_Mechanics/09._The_Hydrogen_Atom/Atomic_Theory/Electrons_in_Atoms/Electronic_Orbitals

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

My advanced E&M professor said "Imagine a sphere of radius zero. Trust me, it works."

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

"...Imagine a sphere of radius zero."

and a spherical cow. imagining lots of spherical cows helps quite a bit.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Radiating milk equally in all directions, of course.

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

+1/2 h and -1/2 h

Fucking hate the people that insist on using only half of the number as if it was a real value. At least say you are working with natural unities or something.

" - How far is your house? - Oh, it's just 5!"

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Except in this context the question is "how many blocks away is your house?" Where "5" is a completely valid response

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

It's h-bar, not h. And it really does make sense if you look deeper I to the math.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Using "+1/2" and "-1/2" as vector labels is fine. Using it on the context of "the spin can have those 2 values here" for laypeople without further explanation is just making the subject less accessible.

Also, yeah, I was too lazy to search for the unicode ħ.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

It's a point but it doesn't actually exist at any point. It exists in a cloud where it could exist anywhere in there.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

You can observe it but doing so changes its behavior. Why? Well... Um... Maybe it's just the simulation breaking down?

[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

It's because to observe something you have to interact with it. Dealing with particles is like playing pool in the dark and the only way you can tell where the balls are is by rolling other balls into them and listening for the sound it makes. Thing is, you now only know where the ball was, not what happened next.

In the quantum world, even a single photon can influence what another particle is doing. This is fundamentally why observation changes things.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

holy shit the pool explanation is so good, I'm gonna recycle it for sure

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Good metaphor

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I think a lot of the confusion people have is around the word “observation” which in everyday language implies the presence of an intelligent observer. It seems totally nonsensical that the outcome of a physics experiment should depend on whether the physicist is in the lab or out for a coffee! That’s because it is!

I have this beef with a lot of words used in physics. Taking an everyday word and reusing it as a technical term whose meaning may be subtly and/or profoundly different from the original. It’s a source of constant confusion.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

The closest representation is that cliche television shot where someone's thinking really hard and equations fly around their head.

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