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[-] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago

My phone: "we paused your music/video because you clicked on another video/song/sound clip and we don't want you to get overwhelmed by multiple audio streams"

My computer: "HELL YEAH MOTHERFUCKER! LET'S PLAY 57.5 MOVIES AT THE SAME TIME WHILE WE LISTEN TO THE NATURAL SOUNDS OF TRASH COMPACTORS AND WATCH A YOUTUBE VIDEO ABOUT SAWING YOUR COCK OFF, BITCH!"

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago
[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Nothing to do with auto play. My phone gets upset if I try to have more than one audio source open at a time, regardless of intent (I have to install an app and explicitly state which apps shouldn't pause media); meanwhile my PC doesn't give a fuck.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I think they interpreted your 57.5 audio streams as a bad thing

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Which app do you use please?

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

It's time to go back to iPods/mp3 players, everyone

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Turns out maybe boiling all our electronics into a single device maybe had consequences

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Do not know how many times I've been driving down the road peacefully listening to an audiobook when my family or friends start a conversation in a group chat that pings every 3 to 10 seconds with new replies or notifications that someone "loved" a comment or some shit.

My phone: "The truth was evident all along. In fact, the killer was..." PING ... "evident all along..." PING... "evident all along. In fact,..." PING... "evident all along. In fact, the killer was right under..." PING...

Me: "For the love of God, SHUT THE FUCK UP!"

Phone: PING

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I found a fix for that and you should use it while driving anyway. Three words DO NOT DISTURB.

Every since I discovered that I use it while driving and no more interrupts to my audiobook, podcast, nor music.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I want my phone to still be reachable. I want to receive texts still, as well as calls. I just don't want to be inundated with interrupting notifications while trying to listen to something when I can't easily manipulate my phone.

They could make an optional setting to where after a notification pings, your phone won't ping for subsequent notifications for some time frame after, like, say, 30 seconds. They could also let you set default notification preferences when your phone is connected to Bluetooth in a car or playing continuous audio streams like music, audiobooks and podcasts. Like if I'm in a vehicle with a screen that has popup notifications, maybe that's the only way I want those notifications while in the car. Or maybe while listening to audiobooks, music, or whatever, I may want the notifications to not pause the audio, but play concurrently, or only vibrate instead, or flash my phones flashlight, etc.

There should be other options between accept constant interruptions or cut off all contract from the outside world.

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

This is real life hahahahhaha

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

One time I had this happen while I was listening to one of the Emperor of Thorns books. The scene being described was of scrotal mutilation and my brother kept texting me during the reading.

I didn't want to hear about scrotal mutilation that many times.

Otherwise, excellent YA book series, audio or otherwise.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Oh lord, hahaha. Crossing my legs at the thought. Nice.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

This is up there with web developers not respecting the Back button.

Fuck you in particular, Microsoft website.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

also disabling the paste function when having repeated fields (like password or phone number confirmation fields). webdevs shouldn't have access to these apis and those who use them should feel very bad

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Seriously, why are websites even allowed to change the history?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago
[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

There are no permissions required for pushing to history

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

By continued use of the app you hereby agree to all these ten documents that nobody actually reads. You also agree to any and all changes to any of these ten documents forever and always.

... blahblahblah

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Where do I deny that?

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

True. It’s a super annoying iOS “feature”

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's not really a feature but a side effect of having two audio channels, one is completely dependent on the ringer being on, and the other may only have one app playing on it.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

I'm pretty sure its because mobile OSs are designed to only let one app access the audio at one time.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You may be right. However I think it might also be how most apps are written.

Disclaimer: I am no audio expert nor am I knowledgable enough in mobile OSs to confirm it but I did manage to build myself a ROM for my unsupported phone which led me to see a lot of things under the hood.

The way Android (AOSP) is made, and Im sure the same is true for iOS, easily accessible APIs are made available for devs to implement them without thinking much about how the OS on your phone will handle it. Multiple audio streams are definitely a thing on mobile OSs, for example if I want a Youtube video playing along side a phone call and music, I can. It's just not practical if you're an attention grabber company to let other audio streams interrupt the very important audio that they want you to listen to.

Anyway all in all, you're right that mobile OSs are designed to only let one app access the audio channel because Google wants to keep you on Youtube, all their partners paying for their apps to get on Android want the same thing and I can imagine the same is done on iOS and other manufacturer's OSs.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

How do you mention you can play multiple audio streams at the same time and then claim the OS is designed to let only one app access an audio channel / device? Which one is it now? Let's dig a bit deeper into this:

Also, let's not blame everything on the OS vendor being malicious. In most cases, playing multiple audio streams simultaneously would be annoying. In android, you can absolutely play multiple sources simultaneously, and Android will mix everything together and play it.

That being said, starting with API level 31, Android actually started to enforce a concept called audio focus at the system level. That would be around Android version 12. Audio focus is basically a token that can be requested and handed from app to app, and only the app holding the token gets to talk, everything else is faded out.

I'll agree that enforcing this and not making it configurable for the end user was a pretty dumb move, but that was simply a UX decision, not certainly malicious.

If your phone is rooted, you can work around it, e. g. via an xposed module.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

How do you mention you can play multiple audio streams at the same time and then claim the OS is designed to let only one app access an audio channel / device? Which one is it now?

Just because it's designed that way doesn't mean it works that way all the time.

Basically they're saying it's designed so that it's easy for an app to override your current audio stream, but allows for it to run concurrently if they want.

As most app developers wouldn't want that, they hijack the audio by default.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

IMO, the worst is pausing my media to play an ad in an unrelated application.

No matter what I try, I can't get my music to play over the ad. I can silence the ad, go to my player, hit play to resume the music, and as soon as I flip back to the app playing the ad, the music pauses. So I have three choices: uninstall this shit, listen to silence until the ad is over, or listen to the ad.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Pokémon TCG drives me crazy with this.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I'm glad newish android versions have a "allow sound from multiple sources" option, now nothing can stop anything I'm listening to but myself. Before this only Podcast Addict had an option to ignore media pause requests from other apps.

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

God. I hate this. I was using self hosted to do app Vikunja and it did that. I dumped Vikunja because of it.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

See, this kind of attitude is what will cause AI uprising

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No, AGI will destroy the world because it doesn't care about our moral values (such as keeping us alive), and an instrumental goal of most goals it could be programmed with is killing us.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_convergence

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Pro tip : if you're on an android phone, specifically a Samsung device, you can download an app called Sound Assistant by Good Lock Labs. Open it, and scroll down to the bottom setting called Multi sound and set it to the on position. That should disable the feature that pauses audio from a previous source when a new source appears, eg: music playing in the background gets paused by an autoplaying ad on a website

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Also specifically with Samsung, there is a setting called separate app sound. With this feature you can have your music play out a Bluetooth sound source while opening a different application and have the sound come out the phone for that. It's the biggest feature I miss when switching to pixel.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Beat me to it. You can also set the volume of apps individually too.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Once my Spotify didn't stop my metal song while I answered the phone, it was a mess

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

At least with the config I mentioned, it pauses any audio for calls. I assume it was bugged for you

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

We think therefore we are

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