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[–] [email protected] 91 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)

-Looks out window. Lawn's engulfed in flames. Closes window shades.-

"All better."

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I mean, if there's not anything I can do beyond dumping a thimble of water on the fire six months from now I'd rather just die happy.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Two things

  1. Politics is for Power provides a pretty good model for thinking about this https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Politics-Is-for-Power/Eitan-Hersh/9781982116798

There's a lot of political hobbyism on social media in general and Lemmy is really bad for it. Take for example the constant Elon Musk rage bait. No one is doing anything productive with that information. They're just getting mad

  1. Social media, in general, isn't a good way to get informed. It makes you feel really in touch but when a lot of the time you're getting biased and polarizing that is often as enraging as it is unproductive

We treat politics like entertainment and it's making our politics worse. Personally I try to limit my exposure to politics that I don't think will be productive. It might feel like the most important thing in the moment but it's often a huge waste of time

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

closes blinds

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

You make some great points. I've seen this in action locally - it's a tiny minority who actually make the effort to change things and they have an amazing success rate, in part because they are often unopposed. The barrier to entry is deceptively low. I think I'm going to read that book.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Perhaps I'm old and tired, but I think that the chances of finding out what's actually going on are so absurdly remote that the only thing to do is to say, "Hang the sense of it," and keep yourself busy. I'd much rather be happy than right any day.

  • Douglas Adams
[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Great quote, but missing a rather crucial bit at the end:

"And are you?" "No. That's where it all falls down, of course." "Pity", said Arthur. "It sounded like rather a good lifestyle otherwise."

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Tbf, Lemmy is a place to unwind for many people, we have enough boring exhausting shit going on irl.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's a link aggregator, if you don't like politics you're in the wrong format of social media.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Ah right, because those other forms of social media aren’t also infested with politics.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Better post about how doomed you are, that’ll fix it.

But for real, some of the communities I’m in have a rule about not posting about negative stories without adding a way to take action, a way to contribute, etc so that it’s not just doom scrolling negativity. Bad news is everywhere and it’s easy to find, anyone can do that.

Taking those bad feelings and channeling them towards something other than wallowing in how bad things are is the important part, not posting and reading. Someone who reads one bad news story a week and calls their representative about it is doing infinitely more than someone who reads every negative story out there to stay “informed”.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

I LOVE the idea of including how to take action. As much as Lemmy loves all the guillotine and cranial ventilation comments, they're not actionable or productive for 99.99% of the user base.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

Have you considered the fact that not everybody lives in the US?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What if they're not American

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There is a global authoritarian campaign to undermine democracies across the globe, the US is not the only country having serious trouble right now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

The picture is specifically about not wanting to hear about US politics

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I post to Lemmy a lot and generally try my best to not contribute to the doom and gloom for this reason. I think there's a difference between wanting to stay informed and getting addicted to the outrage/doom posts.

I'm mostly here to joke around with people and nerd out in a handful of niche interest communities.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Bless you for it. All this place seems to to be is Musk rage bait, jerking off Linux, and Star Trek memes, and only one of those things is acceptable.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Phrased in exactly the way I'd expect from a plain, simple tailor.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 months ago (10 children)

Yeah, the doomposting is intense on Lemmy. I've taken up a policy of just downvoting any negative posts I see, even if I like the post otherwise, just to tamp down the negativity a bit around here.

The best and worst thing about Lemmy is how niche we are. It keeps out the "mainstream", but unfortunately we're easily inundated by perpetually-online doomers.

Also, I would recommend blocking users moreso than communities. Once you start looking for it, you realize that like 90% of these posts are made by just a few people/bots.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (5 children)

....trying to determine if your post is positive or negative, up or down....

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Tell ya what, you up vote it and I'll down vote it and all should be right in the world.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yeah. I just take a quick peek at their comment history to see if I should just block them. Works great.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You respond to negativity by downvoting everything negative?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yes.

Downvoting isn't "negativity", it's a method for users to define what does and does not contribute to the content of the platform. By downvoting this content, I'm voicing my opinion that negativity is overrepresented on Lemmy, and encouraging (however slightly) more positive content to be posted.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

That’s the ideal. In reality, it is 98% of the time a disagree button and that is how everyone perceives it.

I completely agree that what you’re doing should be how it is, but sadly that’s just not reality.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You won't escape US politics, it's just not possible

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It is a cancer that will infect whatever community you attempt to find refuge in

GOOD LUCK FRIEND

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago

I hide posts when I’m done with them and I swear to god these political and news communities are posting the same things over and over again. I’ve seen the same post more than once.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

/all does seem to be devolving into just a shitty news feed of US bullshit. I try and block as much as possible, but it's not perfect. Lemmy needs a way to categorise and filter out stuff like blatant news links. I want memes and discussion, not ads and news.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (7 children)

With all these posts that require voting i have only one question, "how can i vote if i am not USA citizen?"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Looks like you're voting for Trump, then.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

You're gonna end up with an empty feed real quick 😭

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The Political Propaganda machine in the US is now at full steam given how near their Presidential Election is, so we get innundated with "vote X" and "X is great" posts along with "Y is bad" ones.

Advertising has become so abusive that you can't browse anymore without and AdBlocker, and Political Propaganda is just a more manipulative form of advertising, often pushed by people deeply emotional bound to "their club" (funnilly enough, I also avoid Sports stuff, as it suffers from exactly the same problem) hence far more insiduous and aggressive.

Then to make it even worse, this electoral cycle in the US is all about doom-mongering with not a single message of hope or a bright vision for the Future: in other words, everybody is selling Fear, which at least in traditional Advertising is uncommon.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Telling people to vote is not propaganda it’s a call to action, the one that is a duty to all citizens regardless of country.

You keep using that word far too generally which takes away from your message.

Lastly, it’s not just annual doom mongering. I’m so sorry you have to see it but it’s a big fucking deal and completely unprecedented for us as an entire goddamn country. Our political plights do NOT just boil down to more advertising.

We are fighting for our rights and those of us less fortunate. We’re talking not just freedoms but lives. This is not hyperbole, people are dying and more will die and suffer if we do not shout and scream about it.

I’m sorry our election isn’t easier for you to ignore goddamn. Your final line of how there isn’t a single iota of hope just shows how full of complete shit you are. Shame on you for lying like this.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

lemmy is more US-centric than reddit and twitter combined.

If you came to lemmy to escape the anarchy and chaos that is Trump, you best be turning around.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I live in an even shittier country with even worse future prospects, so for me they are still positive messages, and i'm in ave that they are on a totally different level on the maslow pyramid

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

The worst part is that the articles they post aren't even good. They're bias almost to the point of being bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

It's gotten bad lately -- both the posts and the news itself. I feel like I need to take a break myself. Irony of this comment also acknowledged.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

all of the posts are doom scrolling

That’s not what doom scrolling is dummy

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

at least if the memes were good. It's just bad man this bad man that or dementia man dementia man that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

For some reason lemmy shitpost suddenly became politics focused

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I have a hard time handling all the bad shit in the world. I noticed lately I open Lemmy much less because of all the doom posts. I already deleted reddit and disabled YouTube. Lemmy is all I have left as social media, but it's getting less attractive by the day.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

You are probably browsing lemmy using 'All' filter instead of 'subscribed' which only shows posts from communities where you have subscribed.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

All with the blaring self-righteousness of - "I lifted a finger once. Nothing happened overnight. Never again."
Cheered on by those actively participating in concern trolling divide-and-conquer political campaign tactics, both from within the country and from halfway across the world in China and goddamned russia.

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