So far, Freetube remains unaffected.
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@sourcerer @offtopic this was expected anyway. At the end YouTube needs massive revenue to continue serving (storage cost, bandwidth cost, electricity cost, additional server costs on different regions, creators cost, etc.) so I'm kinda not surprised...
For now, if someone wants to watch YouTube anyway, without ads, premium service is kinda way to go
@cuddle @offtopic About cost coverage, it's true ... but i feel they could do money differently.
With these resources, and brains ... why piss off people?
Subscription doesn't hurt if You have ... idk just for phone number etc.
but imagine now, every company works like this, and in order to use anything You need to monthly pay ...
Do You really imagine having like ... 20+ subscriptions? I know a people who have netflix, they pay ... but ... don't watch anything at all 😂
If i pay for premium, i will show them "this works" ... and they will continue ...
Have a nice day!
@sourcerer @offtopic most of the time showing ads works faster than doing (e.g. sponsorship of a product by YouTube). In 100 people, at least 3 or 5 people will consider an ad, whereas a sponsorship will have to reach for wider base of people to be viable. It's also easier to suck up companies (who wants to promote ads on YT) than doing something else entirely. But you see, it will eventually end up with, "hey the sells aren't as we expected, we need to show you a product banner", and so now ad blocker will kick in.
It's really hard to make money in other way than ads. Maybe we can have a better, more visible way to do something, but still we might end up paying anyway. (In YT creators, if 200 people watch a video, only 1 or 2 will "consider" giving 3 to 5 dollars, at most 10 dollars, and YouTubers has to rely on Google to pay for their content at the end..because donation/tip doesn't really work in a wider prospective.
Yeah, literally every company actually does it. Netflix for example. You definitely don't need to pay if the content is available freely on the Internet. Or pay to one boss who have the largest (based on your taste) library, here that would be YT. If its not YT, and you find interesting things on Netflix then it's Netflix and so on.
Having multiple services and paying for them is an issue from the very beginning of the Internet video streaming. The problem is that a service might not have content what you're looking for. Not sure what exactly making them to not to have "everything", but you gotta have to select one.
Actually YT premium here is 2x cheaper than cable TV subscription, with 40 to 50x more variety (cable TV has become worse, they no longer provide variety of channels now and you have to pay more to get them), and the worse part? It's done by the government. And so the premium is kinda way to go here, otherwise pirating. Most ISPs here almost don't care if you pirate content or not, because those who work at ISPs (underpaid) also do pirate video contents.
It kinda depends.. at the end no service is free. Some manage pays by selling user data (e.g Micro$oft), some by selling their products at ridiculous prices (e.g Apple and stores data at Google cloud, in fact they are the biggest customer of GCP).
Have a good day to you too
@cuddle @offtopic
Okay but, who learned people to make money on youtube? ... google!
People made content even for free in the past!
Because google started to pay, now You have like tons of creators that make cheap content just for clicks.
And yes, there's very little of good and quality content. There's very little number of creators that makes very good job.
The others just want to clickbait You and waste Your time on stuff You can find out in minute on the web.
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If they force ads You will have max 15, maybe 20 minute video ... Now how much time You will waste if we get forced ads + creator sponsorship block on the video timeline?
IDK how others but, if i need something, i search on the web and buy it. I do not see point wasting my time by hearing another "this video is sponsored by" or watching ad about something i'm not interested, or i do not need at all.
I'm too strong, and they are unable to create a need in me with ad ... this is complete waste of time, and because this is MY TIME ... they should PAY ME for wasting THAT TIME.
I'm adult and I RESPECT, MY TIME. I do not feel i should pay someone for this, this is insane. It's better off not wasting time at all and buy a book.
"It's really hard to make money in other way than ads." - yes, and no one told us before we born that anything will be easy 🙂
About netflix, i promise You that ... any tv show i watched, was with sub.
And i told my sister that if we get release of another season of Arcane, Wednesday, One Piece then we get sub for month and watch stuff we want.
I respect Your POV, but when it comes to ads, i do not feel this is okay.
Peertube is a good alternative but not so popular sadly.
Even with these Youtube changes I bet people would rather pay instead of using another platform, strange world.
The old internet is almost dead the big companies took it over, everything is about subscription now.
The good news is we don't have to buy it, personally I'll do something else instead of watching YT, case closed :)
Even though there are really interesting people (maker, coder, woordworker) on youtube It's really getting difficult to support this platform. It is so rigged that they end up to have to play like fucking dumb gamers to create "engagement" but they kill their channel to me.
i don't mind Google making it that difficult and I hope dev won't waste their time to circumvent this.
Let's Youtube dying like Twitter.
regarding business model: streamer should pay for the bandwidth .
Oh and they should prevent streamers to streams day long. dammit if they want to save on infra, start by that.
No, Serioulsy, let that platform dies.
@petit_suisse @sourcerer @offtopic I support one (hi, @reece ) on Patreon because "smashing the like button" on that platform, as they say, seemed less satisfying than it once did. Well and because he put up his videos on Peertube. Whether this is an answer writ large, I have no idea, but it is what I am doing for what that is worth.