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U.S. Senator Marco Rubio, an ally of Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, will not accept the results of the Nov. 5 election if they are "unfair," he said on Sunday.

"Will you accept the election results of 2024, no matter what happens, senator?" NBC News' "Meet the Press" host Kristen Welker asked Rubio, a Florida Republican, in an interview.

"No matter what happens? No," Rubio answered. "If it's an unfair election, I think it's going to be contested by either side."

Trump and his allies are laying the groundwork to contest a potential loss in November, stoking doubts about the election's legitimacy even as polls show the former president leading in battleground states, Reuters reported on Thursday.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 6 months ago (1 children)

~~unfair~~ different than what I want.

FTFY

These assholes are acting like toddlers and should be treated as such.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 months ago (1 children)

These assholes are acting like ~~toddlers~~ treasonous criminals and should be treated as such.

FTFY

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Agreed, infantilizing fascists is dangerous. Are most of their supporters just dumb/misinformed? Probably. But we mustn't pretend that the movement isn't orchestrated by very smart people manipulating the masses in order to consolidate power in the hands of them and their rich friends.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Why is there never a simple follow-up question: "Mr. Rubio, how will you personally determine the fairness of the election?"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

"I can't say for sure, but I'll know it when I see it"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Or "What if you win?"

[–] [email protected] 38 points 6 months ago

It is really simple, US Senator Rubio says he won't accept election results if ~~unfair~~ their orange mobster guy doesn't win.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Trump and his allies are laying the groundwork to contest a potential loss

While that's probably true, Rubio kinda gave a reasonable answer to an unreasonable question. Of course there are possible circumstances that any reasonable person would not honour the results of an election.

Of all the ridiculous shit these guys say, maybe don't pick the one time they're actually in the right. Like they tell on themselves all the time, you generally don't have to twist their words.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Fact is that democracy depends on people believing in fairness in order for the electoral process to be fair. When it starts to be questioned is when the system starts tearing at the seams.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I agree, it's best to not pull at the fraying threads of democracy, but it's not like there's never been a controversial election before. Take the 2000 Gore v. Bush election, for example.

If Reuters wants to expose the laying of groundwork, then they have to do more than baiting a fairly mundane statement out of a single R. They have to collect evidence of republicans doing it themselves. This is just lazy reporting that plays to peoples fears.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The article clearly states that you are wrong.

Trump and his allies are laying the groundwork to contest a potential loss in November, stoking doubts about the election's legitimacy even as polls show the former president leading in battleground states, Reuters reported on Thursday.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Where does it provide evidence to support that statement?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

The entire system is being challenged from top to bottom, with supreme Court justices and Judges all over being called into question.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago

Democracy relies on elections actually being fair. Questioning the process is the only way to make things fair, and the process being robust in the face of questions demonstrates it.

This idea that elections are unquestionabe is genuinely dangerous.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Trump and his allies are laying the groundwork to contest a potential loss

He did that in the run up to the 2016 (and 2020) election as well.

Trump has always claimed that if he doesn't win it must be because someone (other than him) was cheating.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Cry more bitch