Why does everyone keep bring up my kid dating? In my day you could date kids and no one would bat an eye. Now the woke mob says it's bad. Go woke go broke
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Can't expect him to think it's wrong when I'm his world it isn't. Even lovable celebrities like Guillermo del Toro signed petitions to pardon Polanski. All the rockstars of the 70s fucked kids. Savile got away with it because everyone who knew let him. The ex and likely next president is a rapist who wants to fuck his own daughter and people are defending him for it.
So extra money leads to kid touching? Seems like it. Pre subway jarred= no kids Subway money jarred= Arrested for fucking kids.
Guess money makes you stop giving a fuck about consequences since there are rarely any
Money also makes them stop giving a fuck about anyone except themselves. Selfishness and greed become their only motivations.
I'm gonna go with like an alternative viewpoint here and say that, rather than it being kind of like, a inevitability of human behavior once you reach a certain point of like, not giving a shit about consequences, or like, having enough power, you just lose touch with reality and become a pedo like, automatically (which is kind of a weird self-report). I'm gonna say that instead, it's probably because of that kind of mentality. Because it's seen as a sort of inevitable thing, once you reach a high enough status. Because of the mentality of like, women at younger and younger ages being seen as more desirable sexually, because of like this weird collective cultural fetish around female innocence and beauty, and even naivety, to some degree. You ever notice that weird like, "born yesterday" movie trope, where some chick has like, amnesia, or is a robot, or whatever, and so is a kid, but is also supposed to be like, smokin'? Like the fifth element. That movie's still pretty good, but that shit's weird af as a trope, probably evidence of cultural baggage, it's like the western version of the thousand year old loli.
Probably all wrapped up in like some old timey patriarchy shit I need to read up on. Maybe due to the prevalence of child brides in sort of like, societies in which inheritance is a thing? Like, patrilineal societies, maybe, where marriage asap at the capacity of childbirth is seen as a thing which sort of, preserves patrilineal inheritance. Then something to do with like, the western nuclear family's imposition on history, to sort of, retroactively frame history along the lines that it provides, while also unconsciously adopting, nonsensically, some of the same historical, cultural narratives that were propagated around patrilineal inheritance in order to attempt to justify it.
There's some through-line there, probably. Something along those lines.
I think it's pretty inarguable that sexual attraction in some way is affected by the standards of the society in which you're raised on a pretty fundamental level, so, probably it's due to like an extremely depressing and fucked up societal standard, I would think, more than just like. Ahh, they're rich, so, the pedo switch flipped in their head. Like, once they realized they could, they just did, kinda thing, and then it all ends there and nobody asks any questions as to why that switch was there in the first place.
I think it's more that not giving a fuck about hurting someone makes you more likely to become rich, and being rich makes it easier to get away with things.
I feel increased money brings out the real you.
increased money and power correlate negatively with the portion of your brain responsible for empathizing with others. The more money/power you have, the smaller that portion of your brain is. Here's a landmark study that's since been cited over 200 times
This was one of those that made me realize that celebrities are a whole other breed. Hollywood is full of this shit, even worse in the 70s and 80s. Hell, David Bowie and Mick Jagger were fucking 14 year olds and people still worship them.
Is Bowie and Jagger riding 14 year olds a rumour, in a book, or in a court case?
Lori Maddox says that she lost her virginity to Bowie when she was 15, but she has also said she was in a relationship with Jimmy Page starting when she was 13/14, and that she lost her virginity to Page, which if true would mean she didn't lose her virginity to Bowie.
Then you have to look at her changing story about the Bowie incident. She's said it happened in 1972, but then she also has said he propositioned her in 1972, but they didn't have sex until 1973, when she said she had dinner with Bowie and they were joined by John Lennon and Yoko Ono, but Bowie didn't meet John Lennon until 1974. Then she said they went back to his suite at the Hilton and had sex, but Bowie was staying at the Hyatt during his 1973 tour.
Another version she's told is that she and Sable Starr went to the Beverly Hilton and found out what room Bowie was in and snuck in. There they convinced a tired Bowie to have sex with Maddox for 3-4 hours, then had a threesome with Maddox and Sable, who then snuck out. But in another telling of the story she has said that Bowie's wife Angie walked in on them the next morning.
She also has issues with her story about sleeping with Mick Jagger, where she claims to have attended a 1975 recording session with John, Paul, Ringo, and Mick Jagger, and then had sex with Jagger immediately afterwards. The main issue is that the only Lennon McCartney jam session after the Beatles broke up happened in 1974, and Mick Jagger wasn't at it.
None of this is to say she didn't lose her virginity to Bowie when she was 14-15, but there are lots of photos of her and Jimmy Page from 1972-75 but none with her and Bowie.
It was a long time ago, and memory is unreliable, which could explain the inconsistencies in her different telling of the events, and I would not be surprised in both Bowie and Jagger had sex with underage people, but Lori Maddox's stories aren't the best evidence to hang them with.
Kendrick called out Drake recently by rapping that he has a nymph fetish. Never knew there was another name besides ephebophile/pedophile, but yeah wtf... Is it being stuck mentally at an age they didn't grow from sexually or something?
The line from Kendrick's Meet the Grahams is actually
He hates Black women, hypersexualizes ’em with kinks of a nympho fetish
This part isn't about children, it's generally believed to be about Drakes alleged assault on Laquana Morris.
The former stripper and Instagram model alleged: “Drake forced me to perform oral on him. It wasn’t your ordinary oral it was more so a fetish.” She then describes how he told her to spit into a cup “until he had measured it."
Ah damn lmao, I totally misheard it as nymph fetish, shoot! Thought it was a reference to him getting close to 14 year old Millie Bobbie Brown 😅
He did also call him a pedo multiple times
Certified too!
Good. It's what he deserves. I was 9 or 10 when that happened and I remember thinking it was so gross and being confused why people were just like...cool with it? I'm glad people are calling him out now - better late than never, I guess.
Boomers have a much higher tolerance of SA and grooming. Look at how it's just accepted that Rock Stars could have underaged... pursuits.
I know this won't be popular, but it's for a few reasons:
- It wasn't and isn't illegal.
- Most people would look at her and see a hot woman and understand it.
- This whole puritanical BS that if you are over 18 and find someone under 18 attractive, that makes you a pedophile, is a modern a theme. Back then people were free to admit that they found young women attractive without being labelled by so many to have a mental disorder.
I speak strongly about this because I think we are doing great damage to mental health to repeatedly claim it's a mental disorder to have a completely normal and common biological attraction.
But don't get me wrong, I 100% support protecting minors from predators. I agree these laws should exist, I just wish people would stop pretending that there is something wrong with the attraction itself.
I don't really have an issue with a 16 year old dating an 18 year old. They're close enough that the age thing wouldn't be an issue, but 17 and 38 is a bit different.
I also don't really have an issue with adults being attracted to... people below the legal limit so long as they don't act on it. It's very difficult to have this discussion when most people can't grasp that desires don't always lead to actions and have problems separating fiction from reality. There are people with rape fetishes that find healthy, consensual ways to simulate the act, something that the mainstream can't really cope with.
But that's not really the discussion we're having. Jerry Seinfeld had a teenaged girlfriend when he was 38. Celebrities using their positions of power isn't acceptable.
You're telling on yourself quite a bit here. Your mental health doesn't have to suffer if you find a "biologically mature" woman attractive but after a certain age if you're seeing a "hot woman" and not "a young girl" there definitely is some deviation from the norm.
We're talking about sexual attraction to children that don't know how to file their taxes and are just learning what it means to be an adult. If your sexual attraction to someone is purely physical and not affected by your rational mind telling you that they're a kid then there really is a bit of a disconnect there.
Maybe you're closer in age to them than I am, there's certainly a range of "adult ages" where people are still developing mentally, but when you're old enough that you're finding a woman SEXUALLY attractive who is the age of your daughter or your friends' daughters that's a red flag and worth some introspection.
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It's always amused me as a Jewish person that Jerry Seinfeld is so Jewish that he's even only pedophilic with Jewish girls.
So we're being prejudiced against two consenting adults now? Would love to see how you respond to this person:
She wasn't an adult when he started the relationship.
There are sources refuting that claim, but I have other issues with your viewpoints on this anyways.
Which are what? That his need to only date Jewish women even when only they're 17 is not amusing? Are you Jewish? Because if you aren't, maybe you wouldn't understand why that's funny.
For one I think many of your takes are just subjective opinions that others often disagree with, but they seem to be said as if they are somehow concrete facts that others can't or shouldn't disagree with, but not everything is always so black and white. And I feel like a lot of your responses are strawman arguments and just unnecessarily negative and condescending. It makes this not a fun place to be IMO.
No one is forcing you to talk to me. You are free to block me. It sounds like you should.
And yes, I believe my opinions to be based in fact. Are yours based on faith?
Are yours based on faith?
See this is exactly what I'm talking about, the deflection and ad hominem. We should attack the position, not the person.
I believe my opinions to be based in fact
It's one thing to believe it, but it's another to provide credible sources when trying to speak authoritatively. The burden of proof is always on the person making the empirically unfalsifiable claims. I feel like you generally don't do that.
You are free to block me
Yes, but you are also an omnipresent moderator of several communities and that can make things difficult. I would prefer mods to set a better example. You may not agree with me, but that continues to be my wish.
No one said you can't block moderators and if you have a problem with my moderation, please do report me to Lemmy.world admin.
Do you think maybe I wouldn't be moderating several communities if I were the problem you think I am? Do you think I forced World News or Lemmy Shitpost to make me a moderator? I didn't even ask.
You could also use the willpower I assume you have to ignore me. I can't make you read my comments and I certainly can't make you reply to them. No one else seemed to have a problem with my Jewish humor.
You gotta admit if this shit flinging showed up in your mod log you'd delete the comments of both participants.
I don't think I would have deleted either my posts or theirs. As much as they would like you to think that I'm the most selfish, unfair moderator on Lemmy, I'm a lot more lenient than they suggest.
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