I find having an operating system is bloat.
this post was submitted on 26 May 2024
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M-x butterfly
I just use butterflies.
there is an emacs command for that
- KDE is the best if you want customize without editing yaml or xml or you just new to Linux
- XFCE, LXDE, MATE, & CINNAMON are the best if you have very old system but still want to have some customization.
- I3, SWAY, & OPENBOX are the best if you feel need little bit challenge to customize
- NO GUI (CLI) is the best if you feel DE is bloat or systemd is bloat or wanna feel like Hollywood movie hackers
KDE has a really nice suite of applications and utilities. No other desktop environment really compares on that level (and Amarok is back!).
XFCE &etc are also good if you are running lightweight hardware (not just old hardware) but still want a desktop environment.
CLI is best for servers and remotely managed/headless systems.
KDE has crazy complex apps like Krita, digiKam, KDEnlive, Kate, Konqueror, etc etc.
They went more minimal and dedicated over time
Amarok -> Elisa, Kasts
Konqueror -> Dolphin, Falkon/"just use Firefox"
I dont get why we have Gwenview, Kolourpaint, Spectacle edit and digiKam though, this feels absurd
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and Amarok is back
Was Amarok gone?
I used to use it maybe 16-17 years ago even though I used GNOME rather than KDE. It was the best music player I'd found on Linux.
I'm finally switching back to Linux so I'll have to try it out again! These days I usually use Plexamp though.
Development was dead for years, so dead that it wasn't included in new release repositories
Clementine was a fork that was pretty good, but I think had more ambitions than active developers.
Strawberry later forked from Clementine and is still being developed, and they're doing well, but they aren't building on the KDE framework.
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- GNOME is the best if you have touchscreen desktop
- BUDGIE is the best if you want to feel like using windows 10
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I think latly, especially in plasma 6, KDE got as viable on old machines as XFCE and surly mint and cinnamon.
I brought my KDE idle RAM usage down to 500MB just by using the GUI options that come with it. That's about the same amount a default Xfce or LXQt needs.
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Ever since KDE made their software more modular with Plasma 5 / Frameworks 5, a Plasma session can be cut down by a lot. Personally, I don't think it matters much because as soon as you browse the web, the RAM demands of the web browser dwarf that of even a fully decked out desktop anyway, but the options are there – perhaps for certain use cases that don't involve web browsing.
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After decades of using different window managers, fixing broken configs with major updates, fretting about multi monitor config etc I started using GNOME. It might not look as sleek but I’m a lot more productive now.
In the end I’m just glad we have so many choices.
I feel this, Gnome and it's opinionated workflow just "gets out of the way" in my experience
I went with XFCE for similar reasons. I played with various DEs at one point but after a while I realized I mostly just need an icon to click on to start the application I want to use.
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The KDE to GNOME should have been "imagine not having standard min max window titlebar buttons by default" with each following DE dunking on GNOME for the same reason.
Seriously, what degenerate thought this was a good idea. Even gesture spamming Mac users still have their standard GUI in case they want to use the mouse like a normal person or idk someone not fluent in computers wants to use the machine without feeling like chopping their hand off.
I fully agree. Why do I have to install gnome-tweaks just to make the UI usable?
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Honestly the lack of customizability is the least of my worries with Gnome.
Why the FUCK doesn't it have a SYSTEM TRAY without an extension?
Like it's one thing to be minimalistic and opinionated.
It's another thing entirely to opt out of basic system functionality that has been part of every OS since 1997. Like fuck.
Edit: Also how fun that this is how I find out Hyprland is cooked due to internet drama and 4chan bullshit.
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Can someone fill me in about "Hyprland being banned from FreeDesktop"?
It's just a young adult miss managing their community as they learn how to run a big project for the first time.
We all made asses out of our selves when we were young and most of us have outgrown it.
surprise surprise: terminally online risers with 4chan lvl takes export their toxicity to everything they touch. thus get rightly hammered
https://drewdevault.com/2024/04/09/2024-04-09-FDO-conduct-enforcement.html
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KDE is my GOAT
Imagine having only one big task (displaying text) and not even supporting ligatures.
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What are the icons for?
I know gnome, and the 3 that have their name in the logo (xfce, sway, tty).
I’m going back to Slackware. Can’t keep up with this shit any more.
LXQt: continuation of LXDE with Qt
Hyprland: tiling/floating wayland-only window manager
Sway: same but slower and not controversial
Wayfire: floating/stacking window manager, used in RasperryPiOS
Alacritty: a terminal, in Rust, that lacks all the stuff that Desktop Terminals have, but it is aaaaaacccellerated
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Anyone praising GNOME can be dismissed if they forget to define client-side decorations for their comment.
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wait hyprland is banned from freedesktop? what???
The maintainer is banned - context
Don't know who this person is but I have a hard time taking him seriously calling people children while reading out the emails like I high schooler dishing gossip and dismissing transphobic moderators as a "whoops"
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I remember a HackerNews comment by the lead XFCE dev about how KDE was actually better optimized, because they have so many more devs working on it.
Is this some GUI thing I'm too CLI to understand?
"Calling out" gnome for needing extensions for customization seems stupid when those extensions are easy to find, easy to use, and work really well. On the other hand, I have not been able to find a taskbar for plasma that would let me group windows from an application together while also letting me rearrange the windows inside of a group. I know I need to try implementing it myself someday, but I feel like gnome ends up having more options.
It's not about how many extensions there are. It's about half of them breaking with each new version. Unless you like outdated systems, in which case you are fine.
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imagine being so uncustomizable that you’re customizable
Isn’t really a good argument, even though this is silly
Extensions are not equivalent to native customization, and both have pros and cons. On one hand, extensions provide a variety of features that can be added specific to people's likings, but on the other hand, there are chances of incompatibility (in gnome shells for example) and delayed maintenance from developers (which results in having to wait for them to finish the work when dependency updates)
nah gnome should be a lot more open from the get-go and its screensharing is crap
Extensions break every update. Native customization doesn't unless something dumb happened.
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