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Nintendo Switch hacked to run Windows 11 on Arm, and it's just about as awful as you can imagine (www.tomshardware.com)

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Windows 11 lags like shit on a laptop with an Intel i7 and an Nvidia mx130. Nintendo switch is basically the weakest handheld device on the market.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

For context the nintendo switch uses the nvida tega x1 processor. Which has also been shiped on the nvidia shield. So for context the gaming console is using the equivent processor. FOR A ANDROID STREAMING BOX

for more details https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra#Tegra_X1

[+] [email protected] -10 points 5 months ago (4 children)

The switch has the worst graphics I've seen on a handheld. My kid has it and the games look like trash compared to my ps4, pc and even the steam deck.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (3 children)

You must not have seen a lot of handhelds then. The Switch is the most powerful portable console ever... And honestly the first party games look and run pretty great for the price.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

That does bring up the question of if the Steam Deck counts as a handheld console or not. Going off the wikipedia descriptions of game consoles and handheld consoles, I think it probably counts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Completely wrong. You think it's "powerful" because the graphics on its games are absolute trash. Most powerful. Lmao

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The most powerful portable console ever

Yea because no one besides nintendo makes any portable consoles anymore. That’s like Apple saying "It’s the best iPhone we ever made", every time they introduce a new one…

And it’s not even necessarily true, if you count the steamdeck as a console, which one might.

And still, the hardware of the switch was already obsolete when it launched. The Tegra X1‘s only redeeming quality is a comparatively high graphics performance compared to most off the shelf mobile SoC, but even it is slow compared to an iPhone 11 or heck a 250€ tablet with a Snapdragon 7 Gen 1 blows the switch out of the water, performance wise. You’ll even get more memory, more storage, etc.

That isn’t to say, the switch is bad. The performance is adequate for the typical Nintendo games but you can’t tell me the recent pokemon games or Zelda TodK run great, barely hitting 30fps. Which is not surprising, considering most midrange mobile phones are quicker by now and the switch is stuck with a graphics chip that most closely compares to a GTX 830M. A 5 generations and 10 years old graphics chip that wasn’t even fast when it was new.

And back to the steamdeck again: while it is a bit more expensive than a switch, it’s still a damn good deal, especially on the used market and even able to emulate switch games with better performance than the switch itself. And, unlike the switch, it is actually able to play modern games fairly well, while the switch either runs them at subpar quality or only via streaming.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The performance is adequate for the typical Nintendo games but you can’t tell me the recent pokemon games or Zelda TodK run great, barely hitting 30fps.

I think you might know this, but a hacked Switch can be overclocked (to both safe and unsafe values) and you can pretty much fix most of the bad performing games (you can't fix ass broken games such as Batman Arkham Knight though).

So yeah, still many games will look and behave better somewhere else, but OC the Switch can lead you to good results, if you have any over there and wanna give it a try (newer models require hardmod, which sucks, but once this annoyance is sorted out, a new true era will begin for the Switch lol).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, since Nintendo fucked us over so much with the hardware (especially on the Oled version), just hack it to run much hotter than usual, great idea!!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Safe values will hardly make any significant temps increase, and still give you a better experience.

What is wrong with the OLED version BTW?

I have the original Switch and that thing can be hacked with a paperclip lol and after many years of usage and OC my battery and unit still performs well, according to some homebrew tools the battery is like at 90% of its lifespan, granted most of its usage is docked, but the "additional heat" is there yet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Same old hardware, no real upgrades besides screen burn in and blacker blacks. The first switch was already outdated, about 5 years later and they give us the same tired hardware?? Bullshit cash grab imo

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

I agree with you in everything but in this:

screen burn in

Really bro?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I was responding to the claim that the switch "has the worst graphics on a handheld", which is obviously wrong.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It does however have the worst graphics of a mainstream handheld console that is currently produced/sold.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah if you consider the steam deck and co to be consoles, which I don't.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Two things: While I'd agree, that most PC-Based gaming handhelds are not consoles, I would disagree in case of the steam deck. Its software and especially user interface are purpose built for its controls and it works just like any other console, unless you don't want it to.

Secondly, the commenter before did state that the switch had the worst graphics of any handheld. They did not specify handheld consoles. Steam Deck, Ayaneo, ROG Ally and co might or might not be consoles, depending on who you ask, but they most definitely are handheld gaming devices. And handheld gaming devices with better performance than the switch at that.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

The various Gameboys, DS, Vita, ... are all handhelds with much worse performances and graphics than the Switch. I've owned quite a few handheld consoles since the original Gameboy, and when I bought the Switch it had the best-looking games I had ever seen. Hence my response.

But yeah it's been gathering dust since I got the SD :)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is a crazy thing to say about a 7 year old handheld lmfaooooo

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Exactly, it's 7 years old, so my argument stands. The switch is trash because it is very old and has weak graphics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Oh boy, I hope you don't compare the NES graphics with a PS5!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Right? Like the Atari 2600. Absolutely HORRIBLE graphics!!!!!!!!!!111!!11!!!!111!!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yup, that's even worse. Old games are just garbage. You can be as sarcastic as you'd like, very few games were actually good, the rest are just trash. People love that shit just because of nostalgia, shit was/is horrendous. Lmfao

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This has to be bait

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

That's what I'm thinking.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

@penquin

The NES has different release dates depending on whom you chose to believe. Still, everyone can agree it was released by 1985.

Compared to the Switch, the NES is decades older, and drastically more limited graphics.

And yet, the NES is amazing. So your arguement of "old and weak graphics" can go suck an egg.

It's all about how fun the games are. Which is why PS5/PS4/PS3/PS2 and PS1 and all the XBoxs can all bow down to Nintendo.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Their games suck ass. Only fun game they have is Mario. That's about it. The Playstation collection and Xbox run circles around the Nintendo garbage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Spoken like someone who's never played a Zelda game. That being said, probably just play it on an emulator unless you like the portability aspect

Edit: But seriously, Nintendo is one of the only publishers that hasn't ruined their games with live service micro transactions and battle passes, and one of the only publishers that hasn't ruined their long standing IPs yet (Pokémon excluded, but that technically isn't owned completely by Nintendo). I don't exactly like Nintendo as a company but I have to respect that they haven't been cash grabbing in the same way other publishers have.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I respect the not ruining their games with bullshit, but I still don't like their games. I tried Zelda on both the switch and my pc, it sucked. I honestly hated it (and people in this comments don't seem to accept that someone actually hates a game they like lmao). If you compare God of war and horizon zero dawn to Zelda and all Nintendos games, there is just no comparison at all. Sorry, but they suck.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That's fair but you're also phrasing it like the Zelda games are objectively worse than God of War or Horizon Zero Dawn. I played and enjoyed HZD (hoping to pick up forbidden west soon as well) but imo I had a much better time with tears of the kingdom and breath of the wild.

(and people in this comments don't seem to accept that someone actually hates a game they like lmao). If you compare God of war and horizon zero dawn to Zelda and all Nintendos games, there is just no comparison at all. Sorry, but they suck.

You are criticizing people for not accepting differences in opinion, and then immediately after you claim those opinions are objectively wrong ("just no comparison").

Just leaving a comment with "they suck" with no extra detail doesn't really add anything to a discussion, especially when it isn't exactly as one-sided as you claimed. After playing HZD, I can definitely say Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom's environment felt better (to me) even if the story was half-baked in some aspects and the graphics were worse. The physics and world engine in BotW (and even moreso in ToTK) felt way more freeing because it is way more flexible. The building system in ToTK and the way the same rules applied any elemental effect (weapons, arrows, physical items in the map, etc.) made doing literally anything feel more fun because there is almost never just one solution to a problem. It really leans into the open-world aspect in ways that HZD never did. There's something to be said about the way I could launch BotW/TotK, raid an enemy camp, do a shrine, and blowing either link or the enemies up spectacularly with a poorly-made contraption in the span of 15 minutes, while I would always feel like I got nothing done if I spent less than an hour in HZD.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Ah yes, because graphics is the only thing that defines how good games are

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Their games are ass

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Good troll.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Worse than the gameboy?

But seriously. Graphics are nice, but without good gameplay, i'm just watching a movie.

You can have all the fancy graphics you want, but they dont make games good. They just enhance games. If the game is boring, then all the graphics in the world won't save it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Damn. Dude is brave. Pretty sure Nintendo sends a hit squad over this kind of thing. /s - ish

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Straight to Nintendo Guantanamo.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nintanamo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Isle Deltanemo

[peppy theme music starts playing]

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Where (non discript italilian man wearing red clothing with a mustache) Is going to break your feckin knees.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

With a green pipe

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Guantendomo, if you will

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I won't

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The switch is fun to tinker with if you have a hackable one. I wrote a guide on XDA on how to install Android on a Switch. I didn't actually do any of the hard work to port anything or anythingt technical, just wrote the guide. I didn't expect it to become like the guide but it did. I saw it used by Linus Tech Tips once.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I think I used that guide to try out Android on the switch back in the day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Do the adverts still work? I'd hate for people to miss out on the full experience.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The thumbnail is a shot of kde plasma, not w11

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

KDE Plasma is my favourite Windows distribution! So much faster than Safari.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Running a VM of Windows 11.