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India's Chandrayaan-3 becomes the first space mission to land near the south pole of the Moon (www.bbc.com)

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Fuck yea!

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

An amazing accomplishment. Lots of bad news recently but this definitely goes into the good pile.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Good for India.

[+] [email protected] -27 points 1 year ago

All it took for them to afford the PR mission was decades of ignoring starving children!

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(23)00067-6/fulltext

Don't worry, India has a caste system so they made sure the "right" kids didn't starve...

The prevalence of Zero-Food in India marginally declined from 20.0% (95% CI: 19.3%–20.7%) in 1993 to 17.8% (95% CI: 17.5%–18.1%) in 2021. There were considerable differences in the trajectories of change in the prevalence of Zero-Food across states. Chhattisgarh, Mizoram, and Jammu and Kashmir experienced high increase in the prevalence of Zero-Food over this time period, while Nagaland, Odisha, Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh witnessed a significant decline. In 2021, Uttar Pradesh (27.4%), Chhattisgarh (24.6%), Jharkhand (21%), Rajasthan (19.8%) and Assam (19.4%) were states with the highest prevalence of Zero-Food. As of 2021, the estimated number of Zero-Food children in India was 5,998,138, with the states of Uttar Pradesh (28.4%), Bihar (14.2%), Maharashtra (7.1%), Rajasthan (6.5%), and Madhya Pradesh (6%) accounting for nearly two-thirds of the total Zero-Food children in India. Zero-Food in 2021 was concerningly high among children aged 6–11 months (30.6%) and substantial even among children aged 18–23 months (8.5%). Overall, socioeconomically advantaged groups had lower prevalence of Zero-Food than disadvantaged groups.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure those two things are unrelated. It's possible to do science, and have social safety nets. Let's at least not be disingenuous here about the issue.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Especially when ISRO's entire budget is less than half of one per cent of India's federal government budget. Uttar Pradesh's government budget alone is fifty times ISRO's.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Bro has made it his life mission to talk shit about India and ISRO. I mean just look at this guy's comment history.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

There are children starving, why are you wasting money on an internet subscription? Or electricity for that matter. You monster. /s

[-] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

Not sure how you can see any equivalence between necessary utilities and a space mission..

[-] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago

That would make sense if I was literally in charge of their welfare...

Or if I took money from their families to pay for moon missions

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Or if I took money from their families to pay for moon missions

That's not how large democracies work, my friend. It's not some dictatorship they can instantly move money around to solve problems with. In fact India spends WAYYYYYY more on welfare than it does on ISRO. It's something like 2 billion USD to 250 billion USD. In fact the problem isn't just money its how its distributed, corruption, etc. If the Indian government decided to defund ISRO and put that money to welfare, it would be a tiny drop in a massive bucket. Defunding ISRO would also have major ramifications on their aerospace industry, many thousands would be out of jobs, those with higher educations would leave the country to find opportunities. Have you looked at how India is doing with abject poverty in the past 20 years? The graphs are all trending down. Is it perfect? absolutely not. Every country could do something better, India has a lot of things it needs to work on. In my opinion, building up its own indigienous space industry is a net positive for India and is not taking money away from poor people.

What I'm getting at is it's so easy to criticize a nation for their faults without looking at the complex socioeconomic and political issues at hand.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

ISRO took the fuel efficient route. That's why a mission launched in July is landing now. Russia's crashed lander reached moon in ~13 days. They are already quite concious of spending their research grants wisely.

I'm surprised by these people who bring up their hatred filled political agenda at every opportunity. Why don't you go start an India bashing circle jerk community or instance and please remain there.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Man does not live by bread alone.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

But without bread, the other shit is just set dressing on a corpse.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

That’s only if you interpret the saying literally.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The cost of Chandrayaan-3 was literally less than some of the recent film budgets. Hunger is an issue in India, but that won't be solved by cutting funds for science. In fact, the Indian government needs to be doing more to improve the scientific temper among the populace. There are a lot of things wrong with India, but ISRO is not one of them.

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