Sadly, until the IDF starts investigating and prosecuting their members for war crimes (and stops assigning people without the required education, skills and psychological traits to essentially do police duties) - some parts of the IDF will continue to perform the role of recruiting Palestinians into extremist and militant organizations. :(
I would not be surprised if one of the dead man's relatives decides at some point to take up weapons.
The IDF: "Oh no! They're reading! Only Hamas reads!"
Did someone record this or how do we know exactly what happened?
Sounds like the wife saw it happen if she saw them wrestling. Or are you doubting her recounting of events?
In a witness vs witness situation I doubt everything, yes. How should we know who is saying the truth? Because of the heart warming story about how they life their live I should route for the shepherd? I do not. I usually doubt everything, always, regardless who says it or what it is about. To me, this is hearsay. The other side was not even asked to tell us their side.
You're right. We should make sure that there is a thorough investigation by some kind of neutral third party to reveal the truth. I propose as a first step to establishing all the evidence that the Israelis should get the fuck out of the West Bank. They are obviously a biased party with a vested interest in this. So they should not have any fucking authority in the area just in case they try any shenanigans.
Ah yes, because that strategy worked so wonderfully in 2005 with Gaza.
You know what, that tired bullshit argument has a point. Yes, to avoid a repeat of what happened after the Gaza pullout, the Israelis should take some additional corrective steps: do not intentionally prop up extremists to undermine the PA, like they did with Hamas, formally recognize Palestine, sign a treaty, pay reparations, give refugees the right to return, and commit to a policy of non intervention while the Palestinians fight out whatever internal civil war will inevitably follow the establishment of their newly liberated society (like the Irish civil war of 1922-23). That should probably do it. But there might be other concessions that they might have to accept, ultimately fair game in the name of establishing a lasting and just peace after 70 years of oppression of the Palestinians.
That's great in fairy land. In reality that's going to cause more terrorist attacks directed at Israel, as said terrorists can now operate freely in the area.
As for reparations, how about Israel work out a plan to ween the West Bank off the Israeli provided resources they're already heavily reliant on instead?
On the right to return, you're even more confused. They can return to he west bank all they want. What they actually want is to return to where Israel is and for it to stop existing.
Idealistic bullshit is great online. It gets you plenty of up votes, when applied to reality, you'll find it quite lacking.
What they actually want is to return to where Israel is and for it to stop existing.
Why do you think that is? Because where Israel is was their home that was stolen. They have stolen more and more territory, even just in recent days they have annexed land that is according to all treaties supposed to be Palestinian land.
Where Israel is was the homes of plenty of Jews that was also stolen from them. Btw, those treaties were only honored by Israel to begin with. Israel had to fight to maintain any land while the surrounding countries tried wiping it off the map, then neglecting the refugees from the wars they started.
Ok buddy. Tell me what you imagine is the basis for a realistic long term peaceful solution. Because the "idealistic bullshit" that I'm proposing is the stuff that actually brought peace in Europe after two fucking word wars and in places like Ireland after many decades of troubles. I.e., if tried and tested solutions are not realistic, tell me what is. Here's the catch though: you're not allowed to argue for ethnic cleansing.
Hmm, last I checked Europe wasn't a bunch of countries hell bent on wiping one other one off the map. Have you considered that different situations require different solutions?
On the last day of his life, two and a half weeks ago, the shepherd and his wife got up at 5:30 A.M., as usual, and immediately went out together to milk the ewes.
Can we please stop with this dramatization?
Edit: All the downvoters probably did poorly in social studies. Did you all pay attention when they taught you about journalistic integrity? Judging by how most of you argue, I'm guessing you slept through that just like the lessons on citing.
Humanizing Palestinians by accurately recounting what happened? Now this is going way too far.
Hamas beheaded babies and set entire civilian families on fire.
Oh cool 6 months in and the beheaded baby bots are still going. Nobody told you that's all fake yet?
I found it weird that an Israeli publication is reporting on the horrors of the IOF.
Haaretz is weird. Many articles are the some old israeli propaganda but they have some left wing writers which write and investigate israeli war crimes and even articles against their government.
The person who writes the article makes all the difference on Haaretz.
The quoted article is a bit short on details of what the shepherd was supposed to have done.
It's West Bank colonists that israel now employs as soldiers to terrorize Palestinians. They make up any story they want and the IDF will claim it as the truth and declare the soldiers innocent
Reminder that the IDF is a terrorist organisation.
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