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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/15286303

GOP introduces bill that would send anyone convicted of unlawful activity on a campus since Oct. 7th, 2023 to Gaza.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/15286301

"A group of Republican lawmakers introduced a bill on Wednesday which would send “any person convicted of unlawful activity” at a college or university, to do community service in Gaza for six months."

"Strangely, the bill appears to refer to any “unlawful activity on the campus of an institution of higher education beginning on and after October 7, 2023” but does not specifically mention the ongoing student protests, rendering it stupidly broad."

"Ogles spoke with Fox News about the bill, saying that, “If you support a terrorist organization, and you participate in unlawful activity on campuses, you should get a taste of your own medicine. I am going to bet that these pro-Hamas supporters wouldn’t last a day, but let’s give them the opportunity.”

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Hmm. So a US law introduced solely to 'fire up the base' now has the agency to override any immigration/visa requirements of Gaza? American exceptionalism at its finest.

Who's going to handle the logistics of travel, housing, and food? Is the US military going to house thousands of civilian students? or should the studennts check out Gaza's bustling real estate listings for vacant hostels and flats?

Get busted in your dorm for getting drunk.. off to Gaza?

Think of how stupid the average conservative is, then remember, half of them are stupider than that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

For the reasons you listed, among many even more fundamental ones, the would never pass, and if it did, it's unenforceable.

It's not to fire up the conservative base. It's to fire you up.

It's just bait to shape their strawman "screeching liberal" archetype. They want pictures of blue haired college LGBTQ folks frothing at the mouth, chanting "death to Republicans"

That's all the Republicans do. It's all they've done for 40 years. They're never FOR anything they're just AGAINST the ENEMY. Sometimes they get one dropped into their laps like on 9/11. Sometimes they gotta make their own. Communists. Immigrants.

At this point, they're even happy to create their own out of queer college liberals. They were NEVER EVER going to vote R anyway. They know they can stir a REE out of them with legislation like this and then use the response as fodder for "America used to be strong and now it's full of soyboy cucks."

The arrogance of the Democrats is that they think Republican politicians are just stupid. Some are, but like if they're so dumb, why haven't the Dems been able to get more than 8 years? If your opponent is borderline mentally impaired, but you're neck in neck in what is absolutely a competition of wits, what HARD reality are you failing to accept?

You want to know how to defuse the strategy? Don't take the bait. It'd be one thing if it was in any way real. It isn't. Don't take the clickbait. Don't feed the trolls. Don't let someone take a picture of anyone with blue hair having a meltdown.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yeah everyone should just let Republican lawmakers do whatever they want, no matter how outrageous, without discussing or complaining. Because that totally doesn't normalize their outrageous behavior.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

You believe this legislation is being put forward with the intention for it to be codified into law?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

No (only because as you mentioned it's not going to fly at the current time. They absolutely would if they could). That does not mean I think ignoring it is less harmful than calling it out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes. They spent years fighting Roe V. Wade with inane bullshit until one stuck. They fought student loan relief, immigration changes, and healthcare reform. Republicans in America have clearly demonstrated that they are dogs chasing after cars, and when they catch them they don't care or realize what the consequences are. We need to stop excusing their behavior as if they're "making a statement" or "posturing". They tell us what they want to do, we say "nah, they don't mean it", and then it happens

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

Roe v. Wade is a supreme Court ruling, not a law. And what happened was the supreme court changed. This isn't comparable at all.

Again, this isn't real, at all. For like 100 reasons.

Get mad at the real ones, there are certainly enough REAL ones to get mad at that deserve yours (and everyone's) attention. This is noise. A smoke screen. It's bait.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

My human, you have to know that they submitted this bill knowing full well it hasn't got any chance of being taken seriously on the floor. There's only one reason a lawmaker would even draft a bill like this, and that one reason is to get attention. A shiny bauble to distract us all. Any stage magician can tell you that magic is all about misdirection. If I've got you staring at the card in my left hand, you don't notice the deck in my right hand. So, the thing you should be doing, is asking what they've got hidden up their sleeve.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Repeating something does not make it more correct

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Republicans have a massive robust propaganda machine that flat out lies to their voters and they don't question it. Obviously democrats have a ton of problems but the way you are framing that is disgustingly dishonest.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

It’s so dumb, but this I’d the same base that was excited about Mexico paying for the wall.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

So, since they're not-so-subtlely trying to murder these students, then they are saying that political violence is okie-dokie?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

The GOP is a literal fascist party. Political violence is their bread and butter.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

have you skipped the part where they're arguing that in trump's trial too

at least they're consistent... consistently violent and undemocratic, but consistent

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Israel won't let journalists and food into the gaza, you think they're going to let a bunch of US college students in? Besides they're too old for Israel to kill.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure there are some rules about not forcibly relocating US citizens to foreign war zones. Ah, who am I kidding, rules don't apply to the GOP anymore.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

The ICC in The Hague will probably bar tha- what? they don't recognise that court? Oh well.

Good luck over there.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Just wait until they find out that date rape is "unlawful activity", so their sons all start getting sent .

Better start drafting that carve out for congressional family members.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

So every time they had "counter protests" aka attacking people for their beliefs, they were performing unlawful activities. Meaning they should all be shipped to Gaza according to this.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

People who don’t agree with war should go fight in a war. Am I reading this right?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Even worse: people who object to genocide should be forced to go to a war zone unarmed. And not just any war zone, one completely controlled by a fascist apartheid regime whose armed forces are deliberately targeting aid workers, healthcare workers, journalists and other unarmed people either keeping Palestinians alive, showing the world what the regime is doing, or both.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Also, wouldn't it be foolish to send a bunch of angry young people to the country that they are supporting?

Seems like that would make it extra easy for Hamas to recruit American students, especially after they get to experience the horror first hand.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We need a similar bill that would send anyone convicted of unlawful activity in the US Capital since January 5th of 2021 to Siberia.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Send them to Somalia, where they can experience a truly small government country with very conservative social views.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Better yet, the center of the sun. We don’t need them radicalized any more than they are. Somalians would pick up on their ignorance and exploit the shit out of them.

I say, make them the sun’s problem. There’s nothing that 27,000,000° Fahrenheit can’t solve.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Well firing them into the sun is extremely difficult, and resource intensive. Sending them on a one way trip to Somalia isn't. There are plenty people who are far more radicalized than them there as it is. So they can go be radicals in Somalia, where they have no influence, power, protection, and most will hate them as a default. They will most likely just never be heard from again.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Every year I respect the law less. The people in charge are using their post to play games with each other. They don't give a fuck about us.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

The party of twitter trolls. Sad.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

At the same time, when these assholes take to the streets...
"Don't tread on me! Muh freedum!"
Stupid motherfuckers that they are in their factory-default state, and they only get worse from there, not better.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I swear the federal governments that killed off entire populations of native Americans and authorized the recapture of escaped slaves were less childish and vindictive than today's GOP.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Same group. They just changed their target from black people to woke people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

All that succeeds in doing is showing how insanely nuerotic the gee, oh pee is

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They going to send whole fraternities over when they supply alcohol to under age kids?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Doubtful, given that the fraternities have collaborated with the police in harassing and assaulting campus protesters.

A viral video circulating on X revealed that several Jewish fraternity members at Arizona State University were seen assisting police officers in throwing away ASU’s “Gaza Solidarity Encampment” materials while police arrested 69 people on Saturday

...

“I don’t want to see my campus fall to divestment of donors for the actions of a few loud mouthed hamas supporters. This is America,” he continued. “I should not be told I’m not allowed on campus because of my race or religion. After traveling to Poland, the Warsaw Ghetto uprising was prevalent in my mind if only regular people had acted sooner. It’s our duty to help keep our freedoms secure. Jews should not have to feel threatened to hide on campus, when they call for ‘Jewish genocide,’ the answer was extremely clear: help the police.”

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Remember, this is not only the kind of shit that would get proposed but would be the kind of shit that would pass in a future Republican controlled state with Fuhrer Trump at the helm.

It sounds ridiculous and insane now, but remember, there are representatives that actually believe in this, and don't think it's rhetoric.

Their voter base as well would happily see "the other" carted off, in good fascist fashion.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

It's just the price they pay for my freedom. /s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Students: Genocide is BAD!

Pro Life Republicans: TERRORISTS!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Jfc, just when I thought people were as dumb as our species can get

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Dude saw the "u like socialism, move to vuvuzela" memes and took it as a suggestion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

GOP’ers are the fucking worst. Maybe they should go move to Israel and have a stab at killing babies. On second thought, they’d probably like that since the kids have been born already and are brown.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Foreign volunteers are restricted from entering Gaza. If we are allowed to bring supplies, it may not be a bad idea. I wouldn't mind getting send there, I have no other way of sneaking in.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Ordinarily, I'd agree with you, but the IDF is intentionally targeting aid workers, so even if they let you in, they may well murder you for trying to help save Palestinian lives.

Not saying that you shouldn't still help if you're willing to risk your life to save lives, just that you REALLY need to know what you're signing up for and that forcing anyone to is ABSOLUTELY cruel and unusual punishment and almost definitely itself a war crime.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

did the Weimar Republic also have a "lol jk" stage of fascism

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

All the GOP does anymore is block useful bills when they can and shitpost the rest of the time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

What if I make a 20 million people protest?