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Each of these reads like an extremely horny and angry man yelling their basest desires at Pornhub’s search function.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I worry that the cat is out of the bag on this. The tech for this stuff is out there, and you can run it on your home computer, so barring some sort of massive governmental overreach I don't see a way to stop it.

They can't even stop piracy and there's the full weight of the US copyright industry behind it. How are they going to stop this tech?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The point isnt that its too late, its that the hype is overblown. Go to the website this article mentions and follow the instructions (explore, turn on nsfw, type name and nude) and you will VERY QUICKLY realize the technology is just shit.

You can see some resemblances and sometimes one close one, but like another poster said they just look like the same shitty fan fiction we've had since Photoshop came about.

Also, this could end porn blackmail when none can tell if its real or not. People will start judging the person who us supplying the material rather than the person in it.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This doesn't even feel like an article - more like one long advertisement. The second paragraph of the article launches into a review of the "Erect Horse Penis - Concept LoRA"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which I had not heard of before, so it was even insightful.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah i picked up quite a few tips for generating good AI porn in this article. Im still not sure if this was satire or not. it basically gives you step by step how to do this.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I think its great to explain the concept and even some details of the process. This removes the mysticism from the topic and someone who has no big knowledge on the topic may umderstand that it is a pretty easy process nowadays and can give up the mental image of hackerman with a black hoodie.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The tech isn't there yet. There are so often distracting flaws around the hands/feet. The AI doesn't really know what a human is, its just endlessly re-combining existing material.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As much as I loathe having to reveal this to you, the shapeliness of the hands should be semi-negligible to most people who would love to have an image created from the statement "I want to see Billie Eilish's boobs".

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agree that was a strange take. Can you usually tell it's AI/fake? Yes. Is it still achieving the goal of the creator/user? Yes.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You underestimate how important the feet are to many.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not into feet specifically, but when I ask for "Veronica Mars in a string bikini" I don't want to get "Veronica Mars with unattached toes." It's distracting AF.

Doesn't happen with real models, or even human-made hentai.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Doesn’t happen with real models

That actually happens quite a lot. Hollywood movie poster are especially full of it, as they rarely do specific photoshots for the poster and instead just copy&paste together whatever random images they can find. So you end up with stuff like the 300 poster where the sword doesn't attach to the handle. Magazine covers adding an extra hand or leg isn't all that uncommon either.

And that's the expensive stuff, once you go into low-budget productions like self-published book covers, it's all just crude stock image copy&paste at best.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd be surprised if in a year or two AI still struggles with hands and feet

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Rob Leifield could barely draw hands/feet and managed a successful career as a comic book artist.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It already doesn't if you take the time to use tools like LORAS, Controlnet, and Inpainting to guide the output.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

So about the same amount of work to Photoshop an celebs head onto a naked body.

Got it. I'm terrified of all the poorly made fanfic. Even perfectly made fanfic will never have the effect of a real photo or irl

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just because the ai produces a model with Billie eilishes face and a naked body does not mean you've seen her nude for real.

Its the exact same as drawing a naked lady and then drawing Billie eilish's face on it.

If that really gets you off and really violates her autonomy in some way I'd be interested to hear how. Its not currently illegal to draw real people in fictional scenarios is it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Implicit in this statement is that people who're inclined to generate a visual simulacrum of a real person for fantasy purposes actually care if it's real. By definition, it's not. If "real" was an issue to them, they probably wouldn't bother with it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Key word is yet.

Yeah some body parts are a little weird today, but what about tomorrow, next week, next month, next year?

I really haven't given this much attention but the last time I did maybe 6-8 months ago, most of the photos had hands that were stuff of nightmares. Looking at them again today at least from the quick 10 minutes of looking they have improve significantly. Yeah they are still far from perfect but a handful are very good, most are passable and a few are still nightmare fuel.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just discovered 404media and am looking forward to how they perform in the space.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

From a cursory scan, I did appreciate their deep dive and investigative approach in the article. I'll be looking for their articles in the future.