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[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago (2 children)

This is a terrible video. 20 minutes just to say "bad customer support". But then, who does nowadays?

On a sidenote, the pearl, the jewel I got from their CS is "WeLL I gUeSs tHiS LaPtOP oNlY sUpPoRtS ThReE ScReEnS iN tOtAl". Bitch! This laptop has 3 separate video outputs! And 2 screens built-in! The fuck is 3 total? Besides, it totally worked until some botched update on their side...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I miss the activeness of the r/saveAClick community.

The closest lemme alternative is https://lemmy.nrd.li/c/savedyouaclick

We need that here for these click bait posts

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (4 children)

You can have more video outputs than your machine can actually use simultaneously, that's a fairly normal characteristic. It allows you to have a greater variety of output port types without needing more framebuffers inside the GPU. If an update bricked it then it's not that specific characteristic obviously. Probably it's the fault of the GPU manufacturer issuing a bad update that they then repackaged.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Videos are a terrible way to communicate small amounts of information and these comments aren't super insightful so I guess I'll just move on.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

A 10-12 minute video is always a huge red flag for me. Either the info is stretched out or over compresses.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Videos are the most monetizable way to communicate small amounts of information.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

This video kind of misses the mark on delivering the points of the title, but these are the simplest boiled down points of the community gripes:

  • ASUS is having quality control issues, or deliberately skimping to pad profits
  • They are rebranding lesser quality components with the higher quality ROG brand, and pricing it as such
  • They are unilaterally voiding warranties when users try to RMA or return said hardware

Gigabyte (remember them?) did this same slow slide of enshittification about 10 years ago. The issue pretty much boils down to a company producing too many different types of things, instead of staying good at the things they do well, and the community has noticed and is calling for boycotts. This will no doubt put them on the defensive for years to come, and affect their overall standing in the larger community until they correct course.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (9 children)

Gigabyte (remember them?)

Sure do! Both my board and the board in my wife's computer are Gigabyte. So's my video card. The only issue I've ever had with their stuff has been a bad stick of ram a few years ago, which they exchanged without argument.

Brands in this sphere I definitely have had trouble with: MSI, Razer -- so many problems with Razer -- and ASUS.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Yeah so the thing with PC parts suppliers is that every brand is going to have people who have experienced problems with their stuff.

Gigabyte I've never had a problem with, but yeah during the pandemic their power supplies were fucking exploding so yeah that's a problem.

Asus I've never had a problem with, but yeah their boards on both sides have been setting voltages and power limits very aggressively, killing AM5 CPUs catastrophically, potentially causing instability on higher end Intel chips as well it seems. That's a problem.

Etc etc etc

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Why people are writing statements as questions?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No, why don't you tell me?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

LLM AIs think any sentence that starts with who what where when, why or how is a question.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Dude has 35 subs, is this your own account?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Here we are, spam has finally arrived on the fediverse

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The video linked is not the original.

This is the original - https://youtu.be/oHH9_CDHz94

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Shit video OP

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

I ordered a board from Asus last year. FedEx delivered it to the wrong place. Delivery picture was at some apartment somewhere. They gave me so much shit. I had to go to my bank to help me get my money back. Took over a month.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

It's not all of the sudden Gamer Nexus dropped them as a sponsor and tore them a new one months ago.

They don't care about their customers. They just want your money.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I hate ASUS. Used to be way in on them -- well not way but relatively. I had the ASUS ROG Phone. The screen unfortunately broke and needed to be sent into service. More unfortunate, it was just about 1 month out of warranty.

So I get it set up to send it. ASUS charges me $300 for the phone screen replacement. It took over 8 months for them to get it back to me. When the phone finally did arrive, the RGB lighting didn't work, the NFC didn't work, and the screen itself had an orange hue in the upper right corner. To boot, it would only connect to AES Wi-Fi networks, so I can't even use it without a SIM card because who the fuck uses AES. They didn't even fucking fix it properly. I never got responses, sending e-mails for months after it was finally returned to me.

Now, in this time I was really patient. I was using a temporary phone. Around month 5, I just needed a new phone and was looking into the newly released ROG Phone 2. I figured the ROG 1 would still get plenty of usage as a spare device. Well I had the ROG 2 until AT&T decided that the phone didn't have the supported bands anymore, so my >1 year old phone is now as effective as an iPod 3g. Just 6 months later, screen itself just died, no fall, no nothing. I can use SCRCPY to use it, the screen just doesn't work. I really, really tried to give them a shot and the benefit of the doubt.

Now, in between these ~2 years I'd accumulated a few accessories for the phones, keycaps and backpacks. Just little things -- ngl, the bag and the keycaps are still really good quality. I also decided to upgrade my PC, and was looking at a nice new motherboard to rebuild my existing PC with.

So I get the ASUS B550 or something like that. Stupidly bought it from Newegg, first time. The motherboard arrives and upon building the computer I just cannot get it to POST. I reach out to the 2 likely culprits, the PSU and the MoBo. EVGA sends me an entirely new PSU, free of charge, and tells me not to bother shipping it back. ASUS on the other hand would not accept that the motherboard could have been the point of failure! And when I FINALLY was able to fully prove that every single component in the board works EXCEPT the MoBo, they told me to take it up with where I purchased it from, Newegg. So I would get to pay some ~20% restocking fee on a broken motherboard, instead of the manufacturr just replacing a defective board. Oh, the best part? The motherboards USB-3.0 header was broken, came right off when trying to plug it in. No wonder it wouldn't POST.

Fuck you, ASUS. Fuck your shitty warranty, your awful customer support, your horrible treatment of customers who put their trust into you. I will never support ASUS again and I will always vehemently suggest anyone else. It's really, really simple to be a good OEM, all it takes is replacing things that break. ASUS treats every single customer like a scammer who is trying to get free stuff out of them, which IMO just goes to show that's exactly the mindset ASUS has as well.

I still have the motherboard btw. If anyone knows how to repair a USB-3.0 header I'll either be glad to be guided through a repair or I'll just send it to you for cost of shipping. It's just going to sit in my garage otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm still so bummed about EVGA leaving the graphics card market! My 2070 super still runs fine, thankfully, but it's getting a bit long in the tooth.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Yeah EVGA were my go-to. I have a 1660, 2070s, and 3080 all from them.

In fact they have been my only GPU manufacturer. I don't know what I'll do for the future.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Reattaching the connector is relatively easy. But unless the pcb itself is really mangled, a missing connector won't affect the computer POSTing. Can you send a closeup of where the connector should be?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I've had two ASUS gaming laptops, and both of them began having issues within a year, and the second didnt last more than a couple years total.

The first laptop was one of their enormous ROG 17 inch gaming laptops that looked like it had jet engine exhaust. The hard drive died and the power port broke within the first year, and I had to send it in under warranty. The power brick also died, and I ended up having to replace it myself around the 3 year mark.

Thinking it was a fluke, I ended up buying a smaller, more portable ASUS gaming laptop next which had more of a standard form factor. Maybe six or eight months later, that one suffered some issue that required being sent in for service as well. It began experiencing the same issue about four months later, I'd sent it in for repair a second time for the same issue, and they apparently fixed it.

I got to use that laptop for maybe 1.5 years total before it was completely unusable, in spite of two RMAs.

My current gaming laptop is an HP Omen 17 from 2017, and has been completely stable and reliable up to this day. I love to hate on HP because of their dumb printers, but I'm pretty impressed. I'll probably end up buying another one, because I will literally never own another ASUS product ever in my life, and there are only so many manufacturers out there who I'd consider for a laptop purchase.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'd personally look into Dell and Lenovo enterprise workstation laptops; same tech, but designed to be used instead of just looking flashy on a shelf.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Dell and Lenovo enterprise models are excellent for enterprise use, but struggle with gaming in my experience. It's just not what they're built to do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

How is it functionally different from running video editing or CAD software?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I'm old enough to remember when ASUS was viewed as one of the best hardware manufacturers you could go with.

It has been a long, slow decline for ASUS. They really manufactured their own demise here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The problem with asus was all the engineers who cared went to asrock when they split. For those who don't know, asrock started life as a subsidiary for asus to cover the low end and OEM markets. There used to be a lot of shared engineering between the two companies but there started to be some bad blood between each other as asus was releasing server hardware and asrock was releasing enthusiasts hardware. Ultimately it was decided since neither side wanted to stop stepping on the others toes they would let asrock fully separate from asus as a company and let the market decide things. Ironically that only lasted for three years before the majority stake in asrock was bought up by Pegatron, a company owned partially owned by asus...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Not in a place to watch the video, what's the tl;dw?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Puts out defective products then misleads consumers to think they have voided their warranty so they can't get a replacement for said defective products.

There's more too it but that's the main thing that made people turn on them.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

My Asus motherboard started bluescreening Windows. After a lot of effort I traced it down to a specific device ID that windows was loading firmware for. No matter what I tried I couldn't get this auto installation to stop. It was a totally random component that added nothing I could tell.

Asus refused to release new firmware be cause the motherboard was "unsupported" even though the box etc has stickers saying it supports windows 10.

After a ton more effort I figured out how to make some low end api calls that eventually stopped this auto installation. It was mostly reliable. I got to crack a lot of jokes to my friends about my motherboard not supporting windows but it was a really hard period for me particularly because Linux gaming wasn't as strong as it is today. I was really big into league of legends at the time and this experience forced me to quit, losing touch with many friends in the process.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

At least it got you to stop playing League

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

I've been largely unaware of a lot of these things going on with Asus but the other day I was reading up on Armoury Crate, which Asus integrates as a hardware-level rootkit on many of their motherboards. That is absolutely goddamn absurd. Bloatware baked right into the hardware itself? I cannot express how scummy and disrespectful to your customers that is.

I'm very glad I picked no Asus parts for my latest build.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I saw this headline and immediately thought "ArmouryCrate is the reason"

I certainly avoid ASUS stuff after discovering that piece of nonsense on my new install.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I have a Asus motherbaord and no updates since 2021 time to get hacked by logoFAIL...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I feel the same argument applies to many other brands already including lenovo and sadly the thinkpad lineup.

Some others are contributing to the same trend by increasing prices and relying on cult fandom.

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