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    [–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Pretty sure that 90% of Linux users don't switch to Windows.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    I thought it meant 90% of the ones switching to windows

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

    That's what I had in mind

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

    I still boot to windows every now and then to play games. But each time windows painfully reminds me why I hate it

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

    This is true, I wanted to play a game and it looked broken in Linux. When I went back to Windows I discovered that it was a problem with the game. Then I went back to Linux and it ran better than it did in Windows.

    Typical Ubisoft experience.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

    ill never get sick of this meme format lol so funny

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

    I don't have problems in linux

    I am the problem in linux

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Linux pros: You have control over everything Linux cons: You have control over everything

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    That's why immutable distros will bring more Linux users in the future.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Are we talking something like NixOS?

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    NixOS is semi-immutable but not really designed to be user friendly. I think we are more talking about Universal Blue, Fedora SilberBlur, OpenSUSE microOS, VanillaOS and so on.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    *mint (nothing else)

    -windows 11 user

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

    sinde when did linux have to make tables immune?

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    ???

    Lookup the definition of immutable and then lookup what an immutable Linux distro is.

    We were specifically talking about immutable Linux OSes/distros

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

    Every child should be introduced to linux. Will help them understand better they don't need to be treated as products and certainly make them more computer literate, and hopefully more security conscious.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    But to be honest, not every child is technologically-inclined. Most are just gonna get annoyed and hate it. This is not a good idea.

    I'd have loved it as a child though

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Dude he said “introduced”, not forced to learn it well enough to duel Torvalds on the mailing lists.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Was introduced as a teen. Recently even looked back at my book from the times and it had a whole goddamn chapter with linux propaganda.

    Hated it. Felt like high maintenance windows. No reason to even get near. Also, hated it doubly because nobody asked.

    Best way would be to switch school computers to linux. That way there's no active part - it's here, you have to use it anyway, deal with it. Then you can taste it neutrally, and it becomes just a quirk. Quirk some may like.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Linux doesn't have to be high maintenance though. Definitely not more high maintenance than Windows for basic use cases.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

    It doesn't have to, but for most users on the level of teens/kids it is. You wanna do something in windows? Done. Just done. No problems whatsoever, most devs bend over backwards for compatibility. Meanwhile finding shit for linux is pain. Most things you heard of are not even there. You have to go through weird apps just to run things you're used to, and meanwhile OS asks weird questions like which graphic driver to install,

    Linux changed a whole lot from the time I was introduced to it, and it became reaaaaally close to being as easy to use as windows. Hell, I even was considering switching to Mint some time ago ( Then bricked my boot. Thrice. And it's not fault of Linux. I think. ). I like how it looks and feels, and with proton and stuff it's best time to do so but it still isn't on the same level of being non-problematic as windows.

    Edit: Cannot talk about Win 11. Touched it once. If I need to upgrade, fuck that, going linux. Not worth it. At all.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Not really most detect the graphics card automatically, unless you are on Nvidia in which case you probably built the thing anyway or are a PC gamer which would know that anyway.

    Windows isn't as easy to use and tends to break if given to the computer illiterate from viruses, not doing updates, not rebooting, and so on. I've dealt with these kinds of people, they are better off with Linux Mint, ChromeOS, or similar as it doesn't have these issues. If you are talking about mac then yeah it's easier, you have an argument there. I would point out as well that most of the easy to use devices run Linux, like Android and ChromeOS devices.

    Windows 11 is the new default, so that's what we are comparing to here.

    Dual boots on a single drive and EFI partition are expected to break at this point. This is because Microsoft like to overwrite the Linux boot loader. You should use a separate drive or at least a different EFI partition. REFIND can be helpful too. Dual boots have always been an advanced use case though.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

    Most people who don't know their stuff uses nvidia. Happily slowly changing, but nvidia is everywhere, at least where I live. And people who don't know stuff still hold onto "green good, red hot and bad".

    How do you break Windows except by downloading malware? It literally hides, or rather masquarades it's settings from you and makes it hard to do anything bad to it. My grandpa uses Windows - I thought about introducing him to linux to breathe second life into his PC but...I doubt he would be able to do much with it. I cede point towards Android.

    How is Win 11 new default? I may be out of the loop, but is it now majorly used? If so, I cede all because the only time I tried to use it, goddamn first-time registration died on me. Like, fully. Unfixable. What a mess.

    And yeah, again, the boot bricking isn't on linux it's just me being an idiot. Also I love how fast you picked up how I broke the boot.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Ok so I am probably gonna curse in the Linux church but please enlighten me

    I have one laptop with windows 10 for the simple stuff: internet, movie, ms office. It functions perfectly. Yes it needs a reboot sometimes. I don't understand what people are saying about how terrible ms in regard for easy users.

    I mean I get it that it probably using my data, which would be actually enough to change.

    However: all these post about how easy it is to fix stuff in Linux (and thus saying it is not working properly)... Keeps me in ms.

    What are you guys doing that needs so much tinkering that needs to be fixed constantly?

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Have you been on a microsoft forum with people talking about windows? I bet you most people will be looking for help.

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    [–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Look I understand your point, but for me it functions for what it needs to do. So i don't need a very specific tech support answer

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

    for me it functions for what it needs to do

    Same for me and same for many linux users 👍

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    [–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    I am never going to install linux on my gaming pc. It is too much work if you are into multiplayer/live service games. Windows just works if you uninstall all the ms crap.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

    Windows just works if you uninstall all the ms crap.

    That would leave you without an operating system tho.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

    Windows just works if you uninstall all the ms crap.

    Does Windows count as "ms crap" ?

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

    you dropped this "/s" somewhere along the line

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Lol, putting the worst documented distro on the planet on the table is interesting. The majority of people new to linux would switch back to windows within minutes if they had to install and use nixOS.

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    [–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    NixOS isn't bad but your right it could be explained better.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

    In terms of stability and packages, it's an amazing OS. Gone are the days of being afraid that of updates or system upgrades that might leave your system borked. Unless you're experimenting with filesystems and boot parameters, it's not straightforward to fuck things up.

    On the flipside, by Linus is it difficult to get things working as a beginner. Good luck packaging new stuff, good luck creating new options, good luck cross-compiling, good luck configuring stuff with hardcoded config paths in /var/ or whatever, actually good luck understanding how to configure existing packages, good luck getting any kind of PR merged without the say-so of a chosen few, good luck changing anything in the community without getting past the gatekeepers, and have fun understanding why some random package is being installed and/or compiled when you switch to a new configuration.

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