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submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

I don't mean to be pessimistic, bit since most subreddits are only going dark for a couple days, the site will basically be back to normal soon. I wonder how many users here are only here because of temporary outrage and not because they actually prefer Lemmy. I'm curious about people's outlook on this situation.

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'm probably going to start using Reddit again when the blackout ends and keep using it until the end of the month, but once RIF stops working I don't see myself going back. The way I see it, the last couple of days have been a nice stress-test period for Lemmy, but the real exodus will start in July.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah Sync for Reddit is shutting down at the end of the month, so I'll go back and save some of my favorites and then officially get off Reddit for good come July.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Not going back unless I’m looking for some obscure piece of knowledge. This fulfills my needs for news and conversations about niche topics. Hoping this keeps growing and new mobile apps come out to support it

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I've been using Jerboa on Android, it works quite well! I especially appreciate the "all" feed where you can see posts from all instances.

A bit difficult to know if the app or the instance is bugging out when something goes wrong, but I've realized it's mostly the instance (lemmy.ml). I assume it's because all of us Reddit users have come over!

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm going to try my darnedest to not go back on Reddit. I'm sure I'm just a drop in the bucket for them, but it's the principle of the thing. Same thing with Netflix and their recent household bs. Even though I got a discounted plan / free plan for fewer screens with my phone plan, I canceled because I don't want to give them a single cent. I found myself habitually opening Reddit yesterday on my phone and then immediately closing it, so I forced myself to delete Sync :(

Still trying to get used to Lemmy but gotta rip off that Reddit band-aid and start using this more. The biggest thing I'll miss is just how widespread Reddit was. If I had a specific question, typically Googling my question and appending "reddit" at the end would do the trick lol. Hopefully engagement here can slowly build up to that one day.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm sure there will be a huge downtick, but there's also people like me who heard about Lemmy because of Reddit but this is totally something I'd support. Now that I know it's here, I have a source for my cat videos and obscure video game recommendations, I don't really need the activity and tumult of Reddit. I'm sure there are dozens like me. Dozens.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What do you follow for cat videos?

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I'm still sorting that out, thus far I have just assumed that there will be cat videos. It's basically one of the safest assumptions of the internet.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://beehaw.org/c/animals it's not strictly cats, but it's been a pretty good start IMO.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

What community is for game recommendations?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I've only been here for about an hour, but I've found two different patientgamers instances... jury's still out on which one I like better.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not here because lemmy is better right now, but because I want to move towards open platforms and a better future. It's an investment. Deciding to move right back to reddit 2 days after they just stabbed you in the back is shortsighted in the extreme. Reddit will not stop until it devours itself and you along with it. Disabling the API is only the latest in a long line of anti-user changes in favor of money, and you can be sure there's more on the horizon.

I'd encourage anyone who isn't 100% satisfied with lemmy and its user experience right now to give it some leeway, because you're comparing the experience to reddit apps that have had years and years of polish. With a community and donations to servers and developers, we can quickly fix the most egregious papercuts. These are growing pains, and they won't last forever.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm going back.

The community search functions are next to useless, the fragmentation of communities makes it harder to manage, and the Jerboa app is infinitely worse than the Reddit main app

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Even is Lemmy isn't right, why not have a look around and see if you can replace Reddit with something else, even if it's a mix of stuff.

This is the beginning of the enshittification of Reddit - it's no longer about providing a good user experience, it's about providing a good corporate experience. This means that the content will get worse and worse , and less and less relevant. Stage 3 is where Reddit fucks over the advertisers and starts making bank, and shortly after that with no users and no corporate support it starts to implode..

And then you will need to move off the platform.

Or - you could move off now. Lemmy is ok, the best for chatting. I've been using Imgur for memes but miss NSFW content, and Lemmy is also very NSFW unfriendly. So for me right now it's a bit of a mix.

I'm working on my own content aggregator with the features of Reddit, but in the end it's just for me if nobody gives a damn and that's ok

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The users will go where the content is.

If reddit has 90% of the content it will get 90% of the users. If it has 90% of the users they will generate the content.

It's a chicken and the egg problem that will only changes when someone drops the egg.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well reddit is currently dropping the egg...

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm staying; I primarily use Reddit on mobile - once RIF is gone, I'm gone. I am not using the official app even if they pay me.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No idea - but I actually think the Fediverse concept maps to Reddit way better than it has other social networks so I could see some iteration of this really catching on over time.

For something like Twitter, the whole value proposition is "one big universal conversation" and the federated stuff gets in the way of that a little bit, but Reddit has always been a federation of communities (who occasionally fight, join together, cross post, etc) - that maps really well to this stuff.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Too soon to say how the situation will evolve, first of all I would like to see if Reddit doesn't at least partially retrace its steps.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

We need to educate users and Reddit people to really understand how Lemmy works, and why it's good. People keep giving the email analogy but that may not be enough. I still see a lot of users asking if they need to have an account on every Lemmy instance. We need to explain simply that :

  • You can sub a community that is not local ;
  • There can be two community that are called the same but on different instance (ie: [email protected] and [email protected]) ;
  • Same is for your username. We should also give tips on how to find an instance that is relevant for you and how to find communities.
[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I feel like that last sentence is the most important for me. I was a Reddit /r/all lurker. I just kind of wanted something to look at, latest news, etc. It'd be nice if I could just sign up under an instance which is focused on providing that basic content. Trying to find communities and subscribe to them is a little cumbersome.

Also, though, I'm concerned about scalability. If every Lemmy user wants to subscribe to something like "latest news", aren't they all going to want to sub to the same community on the same instance? Isn't that instance going to become prohibitively expensive to run?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm making a commitment to lemmy, I am enjoying it although it does feel a little anemic by comparison to the endless content of Reddit..

It really just depends on how well utilised it is going forward I'm happy to stay here for sure but if it ends up a ghost town then I might drop out of the habit of using it (hopefully not though)

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Things will go back to a new normal with a lot more users. Some will remain others will not. Eventually the ecosystem will mature, new apps will be created and more people will move over.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Hmm, well, as for me, I've already deleted my Reddit account, and now I've permanently switched to Lemmy. The community here is genuinely pleasant, unlike the experience I had on Reddit where my questions and comments were often deleted. The people here are not only nice but also genuinely helpful! It's such a delightful place to be, and I feel a strong desire to remain here indefinitely.

I tend to be more of a lurker than an active participant, primarily because I fear that my opinions and views might be suppressed due to internet censorship. However, in this community, I can freely express myself without any apprehension (as long as I adhere to the rules).

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can guarantee I won't be going back to reddit on mobile if they go ahead with the API changes. I may occasionally use reddit on desktop but 99% of my reddit usage was on mobile via Sync.

Once they get rid of old.reddit (which they inevitably will) that will force my hand and I'll have to fully move to Lemmy. As luck would have it, the developer of Sync is considering re-purposing it to run on Lemmy which would be perfect for me.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I’m hoping Apollo does the same.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And have them blackmail the Fediverse? I think not!

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I’ll still always rely on Reddit for obscure answers to questions when googling, but I plan on staying with Lemmy once Apollo is taken down. I’ve been trying it out and adjusting to it during the blackout and as long as the community stays somewhat consistent, I like it here more. Reminds me of when I first joined Reddit over a decade ago.

I usually wont quit an app over changes like this but Reddit to me is different. I like Reddit for being a place to find new communities to join and interact with what’s popular, and since the spez ama and the removal of 3rd party apps I just don’t trust it to stay that way anymore. The last thing I want to see Reddit become is another infinite scrolling content feed that an algorithm thinks you’ll like so you never want to stop scrolling. And I’m assuming since they just want to seek profit that’s what it will eventually become.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

If I had to guess, I would think that a disappointingly large amount of people will go back to normal reddit use, even if nothing changes. People hate changing their routine.

I had barely heard of Lemmy before any of this started, and many others have similar stories about that. The servers yesterday however, were super busy. That leads me to believe that there may be a lot of lurkers in addition to the new accounts.

In the long run, I feel like many of us will start using Lemmy a lot more often. This kind of reminds me of the death of a few other social media platforms. Over time, I think this community may continue to grow, and could become what reddit once was to digg. This time though, there's federation on the platform.

If Lemmy plays their hand right, they could easily top reddit overall within a few years, especially if reddit keeps treating their mods and communities poorly.

At this point, it's about principle. I would have been less angry at reddit if they just came out and said they were removing 3rd party apps. Instead, we got a sh*tshow with false accusations, lies, and ignorance. I say ignorance, because a lot of people have been complaining about the official apps accessibly options, yet reddit does nothing to help them. Moderators have been complaining about how the official app makes it very difficult to moderate, yet reddit still did nothing. Somehow though, they're awesome at plugging in as many ads as possible, and they are brilliant at eating excessive amounts of data.

Even if reddit comes back, I think I'm gone.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

People hate changing their routine.

They'll have no choice if they use a third-party app.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Most, but they'll always have Lemmy in their back pocket, which is the important part.

I think if the top Reddit third party apps developed a Lemmy app, that would genuinely help keep people here.

The "official" Lemmy apps right now are rough. They aren't terrible, but they are leagues behind any of the main Reddit apps.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How many users here do you think are going to get bored and end up back on Reddit as soon as the blackout ends?

Most.

90% of the engagement I've seen regarding Lemmy is "Why isn't this Reddit and work exactly the same as Reddit? When WILL it work exactly the same as Reddit?"

I'm already seeing hostility a la "Well I guess we'll see if the devs LiStEn To ThIeR uSeRs" in regards to communities getting tied to a central authority, aka the thing this was explicitly designed to not do. I've been offloading my data and such to self hosted options for a few years now where I can anyway, so I'm down to stay, but I DO look forward to the end of the protest and the Reddit stans going home like nothing happened like they were always going to. > How many users here do you think are going to get bored and end up back on Reddit as soon as the blackout ends?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I like to think that Lemmy is transitioning from early adopters to First Followers (to take from this Ted talk

If only 10% of new users stay, they start to build out new servers and communities. As Reddit continues to degrade, some (maybe even most) of those 90% will start to trickle back, creating lasting growth and widespread adoption (vs the casual tourism).

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Anime intros, but Madoka as well as the second intro of season 1 of Gundam 00. One of my favorite intros ever.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

(Has anyone made a "Lost Lemmings" community yet? 🙃)

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

What do you mean with Lost Lemmings?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There's a subreddit called r/lostredditors. For people who somehow ended up posting in the wrong subreddit. I was just referencing that. ☺️

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I will likely go where Reddit Sync goes. I don't really mind if the content here isn't as vast as on Reddit, if I have Sync I have all that I need

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Oh right, until then I'm actually using this platform straight from the browser. It's actually working good enough for me that way.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

As much as I want fediverse to become the norm, the thing is that it doesn't really matter if users switch over - content creators have to switch over. It's the same reason why Mastodon isn't very relevant, very few large names actually moved from Twitter.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

To be fair, there's been a decent amount of content, and the rate of it is getting noticeably higher in the past week I've been on here as time goes on.

June 30th is a hard stop date for mobile usage on reddit, tho. I will not down load their app, nor will I start paying a monthly subscription for relay. I'll use old.redditon browser for some local subs every once in awhile, but it's not like I really have much of a choice if I don't want to use the official app. I imagine I'm not alone in that, and I'd guess a lot of the old guard die hards feel the same.

I mean look, I've used reddit the same way for about a decade now - shoehorning me into an environment that is multitudes worse just isn't going to happen. Not to mention - moderating and overall quality is going to nosedive. People are going to go back, but it's pretty clear at this point that reddit is bleeding to death. Things are going to be rough on the new tech for a year, but it'll get there. It's not the first time this has happened

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I don't want to go back to reddit but as it stands now I don't see Lemmy/mastadon being it's replacement. You didn't have to read a manual to browse reddit. It was much more intuitive.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@Korlock @nodsocket I get what you’re saying, the internet’s always been like that. But it’s ultimately the internet themselves who pay the end price like now.

RSS was widely accepted, until google made something convenient. Now we’re back to established sites getting first dibs on what you see like old media. Then theres XMPP, man.. google.. Googles tender embrace turned into deadly smothering.

You can see websites attempting the same thing as Tumblr adds ActivityPub.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

No RiF, no old.reddit, no coming back.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Wow I didn't know they were canning old.reddit.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They aren't - yet. But it's only a matter of time.

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