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FTC issuing over $5.6 million in refunds from Ring security issues (www.ftc.gov)

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It pisses me off that so many people put cameras on there door bells

It kind of makes me want to go bonkers and have 12-14 visible CTV cameras pointing at the person to dares to come to my door (joking)

[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You're not alone. This isn't normal and you're not crazy for not wanting to be spied on just for making the mistake of going outside and walking past someone's house.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I mean, do it? No reason to announce it here, and no one will care about your plethora of cameras. Why would what someone chooses to add to their property be something that "pisses you off" so much?

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Because I do not wish to be recorded

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Then don't go on their property?

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Not everyone has the luxury of owning their own home. My apartment neighbor has a doorbell camera pointed directly at my doorway that activates every time I open my door to go to work, get food delivered, etc. Huge privacy violation, but our doors face each other, so I guess that's legal...

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Don’t go to the door then?

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

"Their property (and what it records off their property) is more important than your privacy."

[+] [email protected] -6 points 3 weeks ago

It pisses me off that so many people put cameras on there door bells

Does it piss you off when they have sex out of wedlock in their house too? How dare they have a shed in their backyard that doesn't match the HOA approved colors!

It kind of makes me want to go bonkers and have 12-14 visible CTV cameras pointing at the person to dares to come to my door

It's your property... do whatever you want. Hell adding all those cameras like that with no purpose will alert your neighbors to what you are... clearly looney tunes levels of crazy.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

Is it to much be asked not to have my face analyzed when I knock on your door? I just want to talk to a person, not be photographed like an animal in a zoo

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Why are you knocking on my door? I don't want people knocking on my door.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

You have no right to privacy on my property (Exceptions being obvious things like bathrooms). If you want to "just" talk to me... then you hopefully already know me (otherwise that becomes soliciting/trespassing) and you would simply just text/call me.

So yes... It is too much to ask. As your complaint about cameras on my property and your supposed resolution of not having cameras on my property is depriving me of my right to do whatever the fuck I want on my own property within the bounds of the law. I also have a right and in many cases a duty to know who's on my property and for what purpose they're there.

Look... I'll meet you in the middle here. I have 6 cameras that cover 360 degrees of my house (focused on my property, not my neighbors). All the processing to identify cars, cats, and people runs on servers in my garage and the video footage is stored on my 400TB storage node. So I'm not sending your image to the "cloud" to be raped by some faceless big corpo. But what I do on my property is none of your damn business and if you don't like it... Don't come on my property. Just like I don't come onto your property and make demands of you.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Exceptions being obvious things like bathrooms

You arbitrarily decided what is "obvious". For me it's obvious for my right to privacy to be observed all the time.

I don't want my face to be sent to i.e. Amazon just because I am a courier delivering a package to your house.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I didn't arbitrarily decide anything. It's literally the law.

Edit: If you need help figuring out why a security camera in the bathroom might be a problem. There's no helping you.

Also you clearly didn't read my post at all. On my system, nothing is sent to anyone except me. And as far as you being a courier. Choose a different job if it bothers you. I have a right to know who's on my property... and oftentimes even a DUTY to know.

Edit2: Also there's no such right as "right to privacy". Which I even called out in my post. You have no right to privacy in public or on someone else's property.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Someone dox this guy, he went in or space on the internet and now has no right to privacy anymore.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Lmao. Doxing someone vs passively recording someone on your own property is not the same and you know it. First off, doxing as a premise is illegal in most of the USA.

But I'm well aware that what I post on my lemmy instance is public. That's the nature of federation. But I will challenge that it's not your space. You're a Beehaw user. Not the server owners/administration. You have no "space" to call your own here. Keep in mind this thread actually lives on lemmy.ml. So you DEFINITELY don't have any rights to this space.

Much to that point... The beehaw/lemmy.ml admins could look at the logs and see my instance information including IP addresses and such. It's their property since I transmitted that data to them free and clear. Nothing wrong with that. And just like I posted in my post... I would hope they treat my data fairly like I do with my cameras. Which record to local storage. I don't put your shit to some random cloud if you walk onto my property. But to be frank, I'm willing to bet that your instance is already hosted in some "cloud". So Amazon or Azure (or whatever platform), already has the data. I'm probably treating people who trespass onto my property better than your instance treats your data. Let that sink in.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

It's not. The people are psychos...

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Remember the NSA director back when all the Snowden stuff happened? Keith Alexander? He joined Amazon's board of directors in 2020. Not to mention Bezos is a particular fan of the DoD and was on the Pentagon's advisory board.

Why anyone would trust Amazon is beyond me. And I don't like feeling so damn watched just for walking down a street with a bunch of Ring cameras. I can't believe it's so normalized to constantly watch your neighbors with a corps eyeballs.

this post was submitted on 27 Apr 2024

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