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Many voters supporting the former president also rated him as more truthful than their own friends and family

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's because they are literal fascists.

Yeah, I've said it a bunch of times. Gonna keep saying it, because it's true.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Are you ready for the people who don't understand what fascism is to tell you that you've got it wrong?

It blows my mind that people can't accept that the Nazis had the same enemies that the Christian Nationalists do today: sexual, religious, and ethnic minorities & leftists. It's not a coincidence, it's a plan.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

It’s the way history is taught in the US. We gloss over any wrong-doing by US leaders, whitewash American history while discussing pretty openly the failings of other states and forms of government…US educated children are (and I mean this word…literally) LITERALLY brainwashed into thinking that things like the vague concept of “fascism” existing only in Germany in the 30s-40s. If it’s not actual swastikas and red flags on every street corner with Jews being rounded up and killed by the millions…then it can’t be fascism.

Our education system is severely lacking in a lot of ways, but not knowing how to put history in proper context while explaining how everything that’s happened has led to today and the exact conditions we are in now is one of its gravest failures.

Not to mention, painting capitalism—a system that breeds people to viciously live in spite of others—as infallible and the final and only answer. That’s another horrible heavy dose of indoctrination that is just treated as a given.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Are you ready for the people who don’t understand what fascism is to tell you that you’ve got it wrong?

Yup.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter what they say...

Because they just fucking lie about everything.

Like a spouse that hits you and says it's because "they love you so much". That's obviously not the real reason, but if they were honest there might be consequences so they just say some random bullshit.

Indictments or not, 100% of these idiots would still be voting for trump

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I don’t think that’s true. The indictments have actually caused a surge in support for Trump. Many of these voters are specifically supporting him because of the indictments, as horrifying as that is.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because he's the only candidate who has expressly promises to make the lives of people they hate worse

Of course, that means their own lives will be worse, but they're not smart

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There's an old Russian proverb about a man who finds some magic creature, I can't remember what exactly. It tells him he can have anything he wants, on the condition that his greatest enemy will get the same thing. "In that case," the man says, "take one of my eyes..."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Was it his worst enemy would get twice as much?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, I think the point was that many people would rather make their enemies suffer alongside themselves than share in something good.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I mean was the Russian proverb that you can wish for what you want, but your worst enemy will get twice as much. Answering losing one eye means your worst enemy will lose two.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Despite Trump’s countless lies, 71 percent of Trump voters believe he is a source of “true” information, beating even their own friends and family, who ranked second with 63 percent.

We have a term for this in English. It's called a cult.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It was always weird to me how cults worked even with people's friends and family saying otherwise. But here it is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Years of conditioning from all angles to create an alternate reality. Happens all over the world.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

More proof we are living in an idiocracy.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's worse than Idiocracy. In Idiocracy, the president recognized there was a problem and hired the smartest man to fix the problem. Later on he even stepped down as president and appointed the smart guy to take his place.

We could only wish the Republicans had someone with that much integrity.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That summary leaves out A LOT.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it doesn't even get into Upgrayedd.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That woman in the front row is bugging me out…

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

She’s got “scary Bilbo” energy

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Check out zombie lady at the lower right hand corner too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What. The sign with blue "Lord" and "President Trump" don't irk you? 😅😬

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

That’s certainly weird, but the lady up front sums up the whole cult of personality issue.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It's because he's making himself out to be a martyr who is challenging a corrupt system, which is why "the system" doesn't like him and is trying to steal what is rightfully his.

See? He's the one fighting the true corruption!!

Honestly, anyone who still buys into this shit at this point is dead to me.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's ironic because the system is truly corrupt, but he's the worst of it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Well, the worst at hiding it, at the very least.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I bet there is a significant portion of his base that thinks they’ve got it all figured out, proper iamverysmart or iamverybadass stuff.

They see the same in him as themselves: stupid unjustified confidence and just spouting off random thoughts as truths. Just being an abrasive dickhead, but in a way that makes others feel embarrassed to even listen to them.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trying to find any melanin in that crowd shot is literally the worst kind of "Where's Waldo".

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Just such an insane photo in general.

The all white crowd? The absolutely insane looking lady, holding the scared looking baby? The "Thank You, Lord JESUS, FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP" sign?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is TDS just on the Trump side, complete morons, anyone who idolizes politicians is dumb as fuck

Look at that woman’s face….

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

TDS was always a way to turn their cult around on sane people. Literally every criticism they just said, nah, you got TDS.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Predominately these are people that will vote anyone in that be burn down their house. The more evil the better as they dream of a chaotic revolution.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

🤦‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That poor baby.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Despite Trump’s countless lies, 71 percent of Trump voters believe he is a source of “true” information, beating even their own friends and family, who ranked second with 63 percent

And they deserve to be cut out forever after this. There are no words for this kind of behavior.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Trying to scroll through that site is a nightmare of mobile pop ups and interruptions. Clearly they’re not about getting information on anything to people when an ad covers 70% of the screen centered over the article.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like a cult, we have to start treating them like victims instead of reasonable political party

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Members of a normal cult are victims. Members of a cult with millions of members are a threat.